• mozingo@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Pedro Pascal feels like a weird pick for Reed, but I quite like the idea of Joseph Quinn as Johnny.

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    I’ll never understand the way they announce a film’s premiere before they even start production. It all smells of the same bullshit corporate mechanism that cancels projects midway or ends up in theaters with subpar visuals and editing that feels rushed, with cookie-cutter action sequences and generic CGI villains.

    The difference between
    Film as product
    and
    Film as art

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      You can have a due date and still be “film as art”.

      The date might even move around, maybe it gets bumped a week, maybe moved to November, who knows.

      Let’s look at “Oppenheimer”, that came out during the same timeframe as this film is expected to, late July. It started production in early 2022.

      Fantastic Four is also starting (or already in) production. Each take a year and a half to be made. Why can’t they both be art?

      Making a film takes a lot of effort. So it makes sense that they would have a rough idea of how long it would take to make. Especially Disney/Marvel who have made A LOT of movies like this.

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      Studios schedule out pretty far in advance and every date affects everything else (they don’t want their own movies competing with one another). And shooting schedules are affected by those schedules, which means your actors might not be available if you change something. MCU stuff is further complicated by the fact that there’s links between the movies.

      There’s definitely movies that are made on a less strict time frame but you often don’t see those put on the schedule until they’re complete. So you’ll see a long gap between when they’re finished and when they’re in theaters.

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    Pedro Pascal is a good actor, but he’s already playing two other “superhero” style roles. You would think they could find someone who isn’t already a part of other franchises.

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      Also does he seem anything like the role? He plays scrappy underdog turned unwilling but very capable hero well. Does he have a captain America / researcher?

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        I think a lot of people either forget or didn’t watch Wonder Woman 1984, where he plays businessman and snake Maxwell Lord (from the “Life is good, but it can be better” meme).

        I’m cautiously optimistic. I think he’s got what it takes.

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      9 months ago

      This is the good one.

      Source trust me bro.

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      Yes?

      Once released, it will have been 10 years since the last film (which was ok for the first two thirds, then a trash fire), and 20 years since the Fox series which was a very different brand of superhero movie. It was fitting for that era, but wildly different from what superhero movies look like nowadays.

      Plus, it isn’t like Lord of the Rings where the definitive version has already been made.

      The Fantastic Four have a shared starting point, but after that they can go on a variety of different adventures.

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      9 months ago

      yeah… i know “the multiverse” will make it easy to explain away… but then again ALL Stranges, Wandas, and Antmans looked the same across the verses…

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      Honestly I hope not. Or have pre Doom Victor hanging out with Reed in a flashback. But give me Mole Man or something more low scale for the first movie

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        Same, we got doom a bunch already with first F4 movies, let’s save him and do him actual justice this time

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        I doubt they’d drop someone like moleman for fantastic 4, it’s more likely they’ll throw a newer standalone hero or villain alongside the 4 to establish them easily, like Ironheart in Black Panther 2 or basically half of marvel in fantastic four comics through the 1960s.

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      The only meaningful comment on this thread so far.

      With Jonathan Majors out, they could be bringing Doom in but there haven’t been any solid reports regarding what they’re going to do about Kang.

      Hell, they could have Deadpool and Wolverine eliminate Kang from the multiverse in their movie and end up creating Doom.

      First off, I need to find out more about these actors. I know Pedro Pascal mostly from Mando and memes. The others I’m only vaguely aware of.

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        Re actors,

        Vanessa Kirby you can find in “The Crown” (Season 1 & 2), but also more recently in the newest Mission Impossible films. Not who I would have guessed for Sue Storm, but I think she’ll do a great job.

        Ebon Moss-Bachrach is going to be great as Ben Grimm. I would suggest watching The Bear and while you’re at it Andor (since you’re already a Star Wars fan). I’m more excited for him than Pedro, and I really really like Pedro.

        Joseph Quinn isn’t a name I recognized, but he played Eddie (the DM) on the most recent season on Stranger Things. Which, knowing that, is actually a great choice.

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    I don’t think Disney really understands Fantastic Four. Reed Richards is a monster like Doom. He’s a “good” monster but a monster nonetheless. Who would risk their family and friends over and over for their personal scientific glory?

    They needed someone like Glenn Howerton to sell the idea of that kind of maniac.

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      After Last of Us, I think he could pull it off, but you’re right. Personally I think he’d have made a good Dr. Doom.

      I think Cilian Murphy could pull off a proper monster Mr. Fantastic.

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      why create something new when they have a huge back catalog to reboot over and over and over?

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        Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings?

        Eternals?

        Moon Knight?

        Ms Marvel?

        Echo?

        They’re allowed to both do new things and reboot old things.

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          I actually want more moon knight. I never read the comics but the series was just the right level of goofy for me. The rest of them seemed like too much mental commitment to me to get in to.

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            Comics are sick and really lean into the DID. If you go with certain runs, they go super into the Egyptian lore too if you’re into that thing.

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        Fantastic 4 was marvels first big comic. They were obviously going to make a MCU movie eventually.

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      I can’t believe Pascal took this offer. Gonna be a black mark on an otherwise great list of releases with him.

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    Marvel just needs to fucking stop for about 4 years and let their shitty ass movies cook a bit more. I’m sure this will stink just like all the other crap they’ve shoveled the past 3 years. Sad because I quite like all the actors they picked for this one.

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      This year is the break. We only have 1 movie (Deadpool) this year and it was pushed back because of the strike. This is supposed to be the soft reboot leading up to the large reboot of secret wars.

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        I think they need to take more time off. It’s hard not to feel beaten down by the barrage of stuff

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      I swear it wasn’t even that long ago that the first film came out. I haven’t seen the others but there was nothing wrong with the first one. Why can’t they just leave things alone instead of rebooting them for the third time in a decade? How do fans of this shit keep track of what is and isn’t canon anymore?

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        This is the first time marvel has had full rights to the characters. The other movies were shitty Fox cash grabs.

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    Please don’t suck please don’t suck please don’t suck

    (to be fair the bar was set pretty low with the other films)