• IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world
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        You’ll get your refund eventually but first it will try and gaslight you that Air Canada is a woke mind virus before calling you an asshole and then stalking you.

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          “instead of the $3.50 refund, I’m also authorized to offer you some June 2025 $350 GME calls.”

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      What possible use is that?

      I’ve noticed “has this sub gotten more right wing recently?” posts reaching the top post of the day in the last 6 months or so. r/norge and r/unitedkingdom being examples. You can automate bots that change a subreddit’s consensus on certain topics by bot-spamming threads pertaining to those topics, especially in the first hour of a thread going up. I don’t know if that’s happening, or if it has more to do with the Reddit protest that saw mods abdicate their positions last June and new mods being responsible for the change… but it could also be a bit of both.

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        Do you propose more bots in order to steer the public opinion? That could indeed generate serious money for reddit I suppose!

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      Negative examples are often just as useful for training an AI as positive ones. And it all depends on what you want to use the AI for. A moderator bot, for example, needs familiarity with the whole range of user responses it might see.

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        That gives me actually a fun idea for a Lemmy instance, it has an automated review process that bans posts/comments that are too similar in style to reddit posts/comments.

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      A redditor bot is a viable example of a forum member bot.

      IMO, I don’t think it can drive topics, but it could make things controversial.

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      A LLM that behaves like a typical Redditor? // What possible use is that?

      • [You] “Chatbot, please tell me which pokemon types are strong against Fairy.”
      • [Le Lebbit Moronbot] “I’m not sure if I understand, you calling me a chatbot? I’m so confused lol”
      • [You] “Moronbot, please tell me which pokemon types are strong against Fairy.”
      • [LLM] “Actually, you should be spelling it “Pokémon” lol”
      • [You] “Moronbot, which types are strong against Fairy?”
      • [LLM] “I assume you talking about fairies. Fairies are from mythology lmao”
      • [You] “Did people really waste water and electricity for this trash?”
      • [LLM] “Waaah, you’re toxic!!111one”
  • garibaldi_biscuit@lemmy.world
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    This is what the 3rd party access to API was really all about.

    When API access was allowed , all reddit content was effectively free: They needed to ban 3rd party apps so they could sell the accumulated content. I expect using content to train AI also factors into it.

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      Is it? Because when you build a bot and just scrape Reddit I don’t think you can just use the content to train AI, just like the New York Times. The API change was definitely to sell more ads and get a higher IPO, but I don’t think it was because of AI.

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        Am I crazy or are you arguing the same point? Scraping is not the same as API access. They closed off the API to everyone for dubious reasons so they can sell that content (both for ads and AI training)… Right??

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          No you’re not, the post was editted. The original one said it was all because of AI, the entire reason for the API change was to sell to AI companies.

          Edit, now I’m in doubt, because if you edit a post that is shown somehow right?

          Edit2, just to be clear my point is that Reddit content was never free, before and after the API change. It’s easier to get the content with a decent API, sure. But it was never free, just like the lawsuit the NY Times started.

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    Reddit is a trove of user built content under the guise of community. What Spez did was to say “thanks for all the free work, suckers!”, put a price sticker on it, and laughed all the way to the bank.

    And this is why I’m not active on any Internet community anymore. Nevermind, I guess I just can’t help myself…

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      And this is why I’m not active on any Internet community anymore,

      you typed.

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        Active as in “creating meaningful contributions and contributing to the overall knowledge base”. I still shit post from time to time.

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        Somebody asked chat GPT to appear to be a normal internet user to populate the comments section to manufacture content for normal Internet users to respond to so that they can continue building up their training models.

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          Some 4chan users created a backup bot that auto saves every few hours, so if reddit didn’t do it already, 4chan has been doing it for a while. The bot was originally made for 4chan but repurposed for other websites, reddit included.

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          Yeah, it’s all too late. Shit, PRISM was 2007, so there’s a copy of everything somewhere. Obviously different ends.

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            Spez like people are even capable of leeching archive.org and still sell the data which was archived for good intentions.

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          Depends. If they were smart they backed up every content that had a certain number of upvotes and/or a certain number of paragraphs and/or responses. Just to weed out all the 2-3 word comments that no one interacted with. If OP wrote mostly those then Reddit gives a shit about them deleting those.

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      Don’t cheat yourself just because there are douches that take advantage…

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    Considering some of the very wrong and upvoted domain specific knowledge I’ve seen on Reddit over the years I’m not sure the training data is going to be useful for much beyond what every other model can do.

    • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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      The legal advice in /r/legaladvice was some of the worst garbage I’ve ever seen. I have zero doubt numerous had bad outcomes, at best wasting money and time, at worst spending years in jail because of things that sub told them to say and do. Zero doubt.

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      lol subreddits with troll names like trees vs marijuana enthusiasts. Good fun. John cena has one also but can’t recall which subreddit is actually about John cena though.

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      I can only assume they are training some specific model for something appearing more human like.

      As useless as that will be considering how fucking wildly different we type

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    This is why I don’t blame anyone for editing/deleting their post history on reddit.

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      I do. It’s frankly selfish. Having an AI get training on my old comments costs me nothing and it results in the development of useful AI tools. Trying to sabotage that is petty and pointless. It’s not like you could somehow collect the fraction of a pittance that you think you’re owed retroactively. I never commented on Reddit thinking “awesome, I’m going to make bank on the content I’m generating here.”

      People complain about the capitalist mindset of the world and then they do this. Sigh.

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        Defending giant corporations profiting off of uncompensated individuals, while criticizing anyone who doesn’t want to provide free labor to said corporations, is a disgusting take. Are you a CEO?