• Nix@merv.news
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    7 months ago

    Its still absurd Cuba is under sanctions. The foreign policy of the US is so horrendous

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      7 months ago

      All because of a small constituency in one state that’s not a swing state any more.

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        7 months ago

        I’m sure most republican politicians would support it.

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      7 months ago

      Food doesn’t fall under the embargo.

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        7 months ago

        But it ruins their economy which makes it harder to afford food

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          How in the world does it hurt their economy? They have the whole world to trade with.

          What hurt their economy was the collapse of the soviet union. That is what propped up their economy for so long, the Soviets.

          What keeps the embargo in place is Cuba stole property from American citizens. If they repay those debts, then normal tourism could happen again.

          Obama made the change to allow it anyways and Trump changed it back to the prior policy.

          Americans can still go to Cuba, it’s just a pain in the ass. I go every other year or so.

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            How does it hurt Cuba’s economy that people can’t do business with them? How does it hurt Cuba’s economy that the most powerful country with the most influence over the world doesn’t let people do business with Cuba? How does it hurt their economy that its a pain in the ass to travel there? You must be joking

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              No I am not joking.

              When you were in Cuba, how many people said they wished they could trade with the United States ? I never met anyone.

              We even get a surcharge when we exchange money.

              Which part of Cuba were you in where they were lamenting the embargo ?

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            7 months ago

            they have the whole world to trade with

            Yeah that’s not how OFAC Sanctions work…

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              7 months ago

              Sounds like a solid reason not to be a communist dictatorship who abuses their people.

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            7 months ago

            They have the whole world to trade with.

            Well, except one of the biggest of all the countries that’s right on their doorstep but refuses to trade with them.

            Anyway, I’m not sure how you expect them to repay any debts when their economy is at rock bottom. The US expecting repayment for nationalized property is very much expecting to squeeze blood from a stone, and a stone of the US’s own making.

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              Who is YOU? I never stated my opinion on whether they should or shouldn’t pay back the debt.

              The embargo isn’t as damaging as people think. They can buy food and medicine from the United States.

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        7 months ago

        But things that help them grow food does fall under the embargo, such as farm machine parts, gas, and tools. Also, it’s still hard for them to buy food because the US males it hard to trade money, use banks, or send money back to Cuba.

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        Not even the CIA believes it was the fault of Cuba “In January 2022, the Central Intelligence Agency issued an interim assessment concluding that the syndrome is not the result of “a sustained global campaign by a hostile power”. Foreign involvement was ruled out in 976 cases of the 1,000 reviewed”

        Also the embargo started way before 2016 so what weird point you have there to try and justify the richest government in the world punishing one of the poorest countries while it also bombs countless other countries.