After Israel killed seven aid workers in Gaza, the US says it has not found any incidents of Israel violating international humanitarian law in the past six months. An Al Jazeera probe concluded the World Central Kitchen vehicles were deliberately hit.
Israel, with US backing, is destroying the concept of international law. It’s now clear to everyone that the so-called international rules based order isn’t real and that the rules only apply to US enemies like Russia.
I think we’re seeing a repeat of the League of Nations.
That and brown people don’t count as people.
That’s the bigger one. They’re happy to enforce the rules on brown people when they attack brown people, or white people on white people, and all hell is unleashed when it’s brown on white, but when it’s mostly white Israelis on mostly brown Palestinians you get crickets.
And that’s why I don’t like cricket.
Eh. It still seems more interesting than baseball, and it’s more exotic where I live, which the hipster in me likes.
In case this was actually unclear, there’s a media trope of using the sound of crickets (the animal) to emphasis a silence.
Only leftists think we score a point when we say ‘rules based order’ is a farse. It’s meant to be a farse, or they’d say international law like everyone else. To the imperial core and liberals, this is obvious and correct.
The people in charge see it as obvious.
Do you think every dumbass liberal does? No! That’s why we raise the contradictions.
Do you think every dumbass liberal does?
Yes, they celebrate the asymmetry.
I feel like the core of liberalism is feeling like youre a good person no matter what you do. Like all their evil is the monkey paw version of good things, and then they say they did the good thing.
Like how we did get globalism and free travel, but only for commodities, so (poor) people were locked down and labor was made more fungible because factories but not people were mobile. None of that commie universal kinship/comeraderie shit or the total anarchy of freedom to roam unaccosted by uniformed thugs, that might disrupt the interests of capital.
Liberalism is jacking yourself off with a monkey paw. It doesn’t even vibrate, I don’t think, but the stroking motion is essential. And if you point out not everyone’s got a dick, you get a cookie and a pamphlet about using it as a dildo (has to curl a bit before you can do that though).
I appreciate you a lot.
Thanks; I don’t hear that often.
Poor Russia!
You might have missed the point lol
No point taken for sure. I just don’t really feel bad that Russia was stopped from genocide in Ukraine even though it’s not “fair”. The US being able to enable Israel is absolutely deplorable though.
The US has destroyed it’s credibility against Russia’s war of aggression by supporting Israel’s genocide. It’s undermining its own authority.
These things are connected.
How do you look at these two things and not draw connections or conclusions? Is history just a series of disconnected events to you?
So you don’t think it’s good that Russia is being stopped from genocide in Ukraine? You’re really saying the quiet part out loud here. I agree that the US has no credibility but I also think things would be just as bad if China and Russia were in charge.
All I was saying is that just because the US is not doing enough to stop genocide in Palestine doesn’t mean that Russia is a victim for not being allowed to engage in their own imperialism. USA bad. Also Russia bad. Maybe worse? Doesn’t excuse US actions but Russia isn’t some underdog that’s being picked on unfairly.
I don’t think it’s good that the US is lighting it’s credibility on fire to support Israel because it will make it impossible to stop other wars of aggression like Ukraine! You are not seeing the big picture. Next time Russia invades a country everyone will ignore the US’s claims about international law. International law has to be applied equally or it ceases to exist
I agree. I also think it’s better to have 1 genocide instead of 2 genocides. I’d much prefer zero though.
It does seem like there’s some pressure for the Biden administration to stop being so hypocritical in their foreign policy. I’m hoping things are going to change though it’s happening far too slowly. We’re very lucky that we’re not in another Trump administration or things would be way worse.
Clown country
I wish it was more funny :(
Oh god dammit put down the monkey paw, we just had this with the last guy.
Holy hell, how can he say that with a straight face?
Because the five of us here who aren’t
are the only people in the entire world who don’t take MSM at face valueI always find a weird cognitive dissonance when I talk to people on the street about it. They know its not trustworthy, but they still trust it. They’re more open if you point that out before presenting alternatives.
Its kind of like elections? ‘Everything’s broken, all the systems are bad and will never serve us, vote em all out!’ As opposed to real action.
Politicians are professional liars
And I’m really insulted they’re not doing a better job.
I can’t imagine what it takes to stand up there and say that shit with a straight face. Fuck you for representing my country.
Its not your country. Youre its property.
Who’s property are you?
Your mom’s.
Or… Or I was. She’s not taking my calls. An empty chamber in my heart.
Thought this was an Onion article from the headline
the US says it has not
foundlooked for evidence of Israel violating humanitarian law.FTF them.
American officials scoured their own belly buttons, even removing some old cotton, but found no evidence of Israel violating humanitarian laws.
Seriously, I bet any investigation went something like “Hay Ari, sorry I have to ask, it’s just a technicality, you see… you’re following all humanitarian laws, right?”, and then their IDF lunch buddy went “Absolutely not, we do only the gentlest airstrikes and the Palestinians shake our hands in the rubble afterwards”. Grilling the Israelis is something they’re not ideologically accustomed to, let alone making them prove anything.
US helps commit genocide.
Which, to be fair, is kind of a step up from their usual.
Brought to you by the same country that invaded iraq for Weapons of Mass Destruction that were never found…
And Iraq the first time, for the incubator lie ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony )
and about 400 other countries before and since that
i knew biden would be disappointing but fuck… not “incredibly horrible”
so, now the election is between incredibly horrible and unimaginably worse…
Love that americans are still worried about elections of all things as if anything other than organized violence will stop a capitalist government from committing genocide.
americans are too chickenshit and comfortable to do anything than complain. i wish we were more like the french.
I thought that was what the 2nd Armament was for, but apparently it’s actually for killing school children.
Only the brown ones, but yes. See: Mulford act
The white kids who die are just an acceptable cost, I guess.
The #1 thing I’ve noticed this go round is how the best even the most dem pundits and supporters can come up with is “Yeah Biden does it but Trump will do it worse”
I’m not even convinced that’s true when it comes to this issue. Trump, at least, narcissistically cares about what people think of him enough that he could maybe be swayed by public opinion. Biden has been a hardline Zionist his entire career and sees backing Israel to the hilt despite the public outcry as a moral imperative.
Besides, how do you get worse than eagerly aiding a genocide?
when Trump was in office, liberals at least pretended to care. They took COVID somewhat seriously, masked up out of spite, they paid lip service to the BLM protests. These past 4 years they’ve truly gone back to brunch. maybe if ol’ Mango Mussolini gets back in, they’ll pretend to give a shit again.
Yeah. I don’t know Trump would help this situation at all but it wouldn’t be this bullshit. That’s for sure. And I want to be very clear I do not and did not want a president trump.
Ttumo has explicitly said he thinks Israel needs to finish the job.
Jesus Christ, inform yourself before you say shit like this.
Trump says a lot doesn’t mean him or his party would be doing the same if they were in this role lol.
If you want to believe that Ttunp is lying to you about his feelings towards Palestinians, than there is nothing I can say to change your mind.
That is pure uninformed lunacy and you absolutely know better.
Eagerly aiding a genocide while also doing one at home, but you know biden wouldn’t stop it if the fascists just did one, so he’s not really better than trump OK that either.
At least if trump tries to genocide me, he’ll be using poorly primed hierarchal power and you’ll get a lot of mutinies. Like, a non-trump fasch genocide is blood in the streets, and I’m so fucking shit at that, so my odds are like 10% and its definitely a bad time. If trump orders it, There’s a 50/50 chance the local air force base mutinies and flips on him because poverty draft, and I either get s hellfire missile or I don’t.
Sufficiently grand disorganized violence or sufficiently organized property destruction could also work.
Hey we’re not hungry enough yet. Violence is scary and we won’t do it till we absolutely gotta. I mean we absolutely gotta but even as i know this I’m not picking up a gun yet, i still have a lot to lose. It’s not like it’s just here in the states, it’s happening all over the western world. When will you decide to take up arms and take your life back?
I’m not attacking you, just putting you in my yankee shoes
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Israel is committing genocide with American bombs and American protection and American approval. This war could be ended if Biden just stopped giving them more bombs and stopped protecting Israel from the consequences of its actions. Israel is the 51st State, America’s unsinkable aircraft carrier, it’s an American genocide. We don’t get to hide behind a proxy and pretend we are not directly responsible.
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Why are you bringing up Russia here?
“Israel” is a US colony; it’s entire existence hinges on the latter.
Its formation used common british colonization tactics [III], with companies literally named “Colonization Commission”, “Jewish Colonial Trust” and the like.
Theodor Herzl, founder of the colonial ideology he called “zionism”, was himself also just a racist colonizer by his own admission, and saw it as bringing ‘civilization’ to ‘barbarians’ as the rest of Europe did when they were colonizing and enslaving Africa and Asia:
“We should there form a portion of a rampart of Europe against Asia, an outpost of civilization as opposed to barbarism. We should as a neutral State remain in contact with all Europe, which would have to guarantee our existence.” Source [II]
Only difference now is that the US has been the de facto leader of the imperial core since WW2, no longer UK in Europe.
And capitalist governments work for the interests and profit of capitalists rather than workers as is the reason for the genocide here (keeping the middle east unstable and unable to unite against imperialism with a colony right in the middle of Africa and Asia), so yes that does matter.
The government does not represent you since you’re not a capitalist, so trying to change something as massive as a genocide through it is pointless, specially when the only other option is just as bad, if not worse. The only thing that will change it is organizing and pressuring it from the outside.
Rather than “intervening” like you want other countries to do against a nuclear state, has the US considered not directly funding and facilitating the genocide?
“Israel” is a US colony; it’s entire existence hinges on the latter.
I think I disagree with this.
Puerto Rico is a colony. There’s a very clear difference in how the empire treats colonies and how it treats extensions of itself. Israel, rather than being a colony, is actually just an extension of the US empire. It’s like the 51st state, it’s an equal partner in the imperial project.
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So youre saying we should stop sending arms and money to Russia?
Wait, no that can’t be it, so we should send arms and money to Palestine? Based AF
But to be serious though, the difference is a country has not brought up formal accusations of genocide in Ukraine before the ICJ. Also:
Love how you ignore everything they said and bring up something completely unrelated to derail the conversation lmao
Edit: but, what are your feelings about the us colony’s genocide in palestine?
whatever country you’re pretending to be from
The american chauvinist cannot comprehend people being from other countries
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lol at this wannabe cop bootlicker
Hey, you gonna file a report with your local intelligence branch about people on the internet mad at their governments?
If somebody accuses you of being a cop, maybe don’t start acting like a child and then immediately call them a cop.
It just makes you look uncreative, on top of the other shortcoming previously mentioned.
I’m not that guy.
You should definitely tell the police that people on the internet are making you feel bad though, call 911 asap!
What are the chances two completely separate not the same guys could stumble into the same conversation and be that obtuse?
Fairly high!
Best of luck to you in your future endeavors.
Wait, don’t give up on trying to convince people to document and rat on each other so easy!
Come on, how else are the spooks gonna know who to target if we don’t form a circular firing squad?
I have a million alt accounts and they’re all inside your walls
report me to the House Un-American Activities Committee you McCarthyist loser
I didn’t realize not calling for terrorism on the open web made ma McCarthyite. Somebody just watched Good Night, and Good Luck in AP History, huh?
“those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
“Omg wtf JFK is a terrorist???” - you, apparently
Except you are calling out for an Oswald here, not a JFK.
The sad thing is there might be somebody here stupid enough to fall for it. Doubtful, but maybe God is on your side tonight.
Lee Harvey Oswald was a single man, the poster you’re whining about is calling for mass organized action (that means with lots of coordinated people). Try to keep up, you’re making yourself look like a clown here.
Yup :(
I don’t envy you Americans. Here in Canada we have our own set of idiots too and it almost always boils down to voting for the least worst person :(
democracy under capitalism = fascism in cosplay
no matter how much you organize, grassroots, and petition… evil bastards will steamroll your movements with cash, and add a little concession to whatever you were riling people up about…
then you get to vote for the guy pandering to you or the guy who isn’t, but they’ll both do the same shit… give more money to rich people any way possible.
Yeah you only have Conservatives to choose from. It sucks.
Almost like the electoral system is broken and the only solution us direct action?
US/Europe’s support of Israel and condemnation of Russia pretty much just shows the rest of the world what hypocrites they are.
Meanwhile people still sneer at me about “Uyghurs” and accuse me of being “political” and a “takfiri” if I say anything to the contrary.
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Russia is trying in Ukraine. Their stated war aims are explicitly genocidal. They’re just mostly failing, and not as fucking ghoulish about it as the kapo trash doing ‘protocols of the elders of zion’ larp with real bullets.
So condemning them is the right thing to do, but not condemning (and continuing to feed+arm) the worse assholes doing a worse version of the same thing on much more helpless people is the problem.
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France and Spain have voted fairly reliably against Israel. Spain called Israels action a genocide. Germany and the UK are the two European countries most pro Israel.
Why would anybody think that the US could have beef with settlers killing civilians?
Cops investigated themselves and found no wrong doing
And anyone trusts anything the US says why?
Because while it is morally crap. It is technically correct.
Palestine is not recognised as a nation internationally. And historically never has been.
So no international law applies to actions being committed.
It has an nation observer seat at the UN, was a nation as a “mandate” after WW1 and the ICJ did make a ruling saying that Genocide was being committed there that the US passed a law threatening Palistine from recognizing.
On top of this most of the world recognized palistine as a country only 55 of the 193 (194 if we are counting the Holy Sea/Vatican City) do not recognize palistine. I would call that International recognition if 139 members of the UN Recognize Palestine.
So I really do not get what you are trying to say here, because it is not even techincaly correct, the International Court of Justice, United Nations General Assembly, International Red Cross Cressent and Crystal have all said it is a vioilation of international law.
This is before I start listing the individual counts of them violating just the geneva conventions, that apply to a signitory when they they fight any war reguardless of if the other side is recognized or a signitory. and agian Palistine is internationaly recognized
139 out of 193 countries recognise Palestine as a nation internationally.
Considering they include China, Indonesia, Nigeria, India AND Pakistan, Brazil and Russia, it’s more accurate to say the vast majority of homo sapiens recognise the state of Palestine
That isn’t even true in our shitty system.
Palestine…historically never has been [a nation]
Tell that to my 90-100 years old Palestinian grandparents who still have their official government documents from before the colonizers came barging in in 1948.
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Did you have a stroke when typing palestine
Visually impaired. So missed the autocorretion being crap
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US is an accomplice, so of course they can’t admit to Israel violating international law.
