Texas leads the charge

  • FfaerieOxide@kbin.social
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    7 months ago

    Illegals is just shortened illegal immigrant, just like temporary nonimigrant workers are called migrants.

    They are migrants because they migrate. They aren’t “illegals” because irrespective of the status of their presence according to those that claim dominion of the land they are on they are not themselves illegal.

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      7 months ago

      They are illegal immigrants or illegal for short per the definition you were given but appear unable to comprehend.

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        7 months ago

        But they aren’t illegal_s_ as that renders the phrase a reference to the people themselves and not their actions.

        To refer to people as illegal is dehumanizing.

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          7 months ago

          Just because you look down on a group of people doesn’t make the term to describe them dehumanizing.

          Just because you can’t differenciate between a term for immigration status and the people with that status doesn’t change what the term means.

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            7 months ago

            Just because you look down on a group of people doesn’t make the term to describe them dehumanizing.

            Doesn’t make it not dehumanizing—since it is—and it certainly doesn’t help your arguments it isn’t.

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              7 months ago

              I can’t change how you feel about a group nor can I change the definition of a word. It’s a shame you only see a person’s immigration status there’s more to an illegal than how they entered the country.

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                7 months ago

                there’s more to an illegal than how they entered the country.

                You’re going to have to explain what the word means to me then, because the phrase by itself doesn’t even seem to refer to immigration status at all and I don’t know what you mean by it.

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                    7 months ago

                    I gave you the definition of illegal here.

                    One that doesn’t fit with your later claim that it isn’t derogatory so both assertions cannot be true.

                    The word you used doesn’t even mention people so what is it to which you are referring when you use it?

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            7 months ago

            I don’t look down on the group. I look down on their actions. I don’t like criminal behavior.

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          7 months ago

          Thats really getting into pedantics, and its just name calling. I swear, yall cared more about the term illegals than the lawsuit

          • FfaerieOxide@kbin.social
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            7 months ago

            Thats really getting into pedantics, and its just name calling.

            I question if that view of yours extends to all slurs.

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              7 months ago

              It doesnt. I remove any uses of the n-word and r-word on sight.

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                7 months ago

                It doesnt. I remove any uses of the n-word and r-word on sight.

                Would you mind explaining your logic for differentiating those names people call people from these ones?

                What issues do you take with the alluded to slurs you don’t find applicable to this one?

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                  7 months ago

                  Well, those two have much stronger connatations than “illegal”

                  “Fuck” is worse than “damn” for an example.

                  • FfaerieOxide@kbin.social
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                    7 months ago

                    Well, those two have much stronger connatations than “illegal”

                    What is it that makes the one you would censor bad, though?

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          7 months ago

          Thats the term for their group, isnt it? Isnt it tiring to type out illegal immigrant every time?