Fitting since she makes music for people that are exactly like that.
People that think they’re wild and crazy but are actually the most mild and middle class white people you’ve ever met.
If swifties were a pokemon, they’d be normal type.
Ditto has a place in the world
And it’s getting railed 24/7, the dream
dude sometimes I just wanna be a basic white girl
The power is in your hands to do so
That’s ok.
“If they were a spice, they’d be flour.”
yeah but they’re into being spanked so clearly they’re FUCKED UP and if anyone knew their terrible secret they’d be horrified
Photo of the Swift Asylum, it’s actually horrible! Just 3,600 sqft on 11 acres?? who could live like that!
Okay completely irrelevant but I feel like infodumping and it’s crazy how THIRTY TOUSDAND PEOPLE lived in a city just over HALF of her property size. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City
Having been to Kowloon 20 years ago, It sure seemed like every 5.5 acres housed way more than 30k people.
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Uh, Kowloon is still there, just not the walled city. Kowloon city is 400,000 people per square km.
Ah my bad, I mixed up the two
No worries. The walled city without a government must have been hell on earth. The Sim City-like giant blocks that were each basically a city when I was there were were crazy enough.
Just to be clear, the photo above is of her childhood home in Wyomissing, PA, and the property is definitely much smaller than Kowloon Walled City. I’m guessing you’re talking about a different property?
yeah but if you live there your parents leave you alone at Christmas and two guys attempt to break in and kill you so you have to improvise booby traps
No argument that she’s from the wealth & privilege class
But you don’t become the biggest pop star ever with a completely healthy upbringing, either, right?
…why not? Pop isn’t exactly a reaction like metal, punk or hyperpop, it’s just… The default genre of music she could have made?
What unhealthy part of any upbringing would compel someone to make pop?
Anyone that driven was probably abused mentally to some degree at the very least… I know you think you’re being “funny” because it’s just “pop music”. Like being pop means it isn’t a horrible cut throat industry that regularly chews up and destroys child stars …
You know what else regularly grinds up and destroys children?
Poverty.
Which occurs to far more millions of people than whatever tf this princess went through
No, she had the fucken cash to sit around and get the fucken recording equipment and instruments for country songs. That shit ain’t cheap, and she started before the home recording revolution. So you know Papa Swift paid for some studio time. Its not abuse at all, its wealth and privilege to pursue what you want.
You’re not wrong on all your points but also jesus christ if you think DIY started after T Swift.
No, but in the 2010s it became much cheaper to record at home than it ever was and we saw countless artists come from that.
I had prosumer home recording equipment back around the turn of the century, and it wasn’t anything new.
From everything ive heard, it seems her parents were super supportive and understanding, from driving her hours away so she could get lessons/coaching, to moving across the country so she could start her career.
Abused mentally could mean not voted home coming queen. Tempest in a teapot can still be a tempest to someone fixated on the teapot.
But you don’t become the biggest pop star ever with a completely healthy upbringing, either, right?
Sure you could. Why not?
But you don’t become the biggest pop star ever with a completely healthy upbringing, either, right?
Paul McCartney had, by all accounts, an idyllic childhood
So that’s where the Beatles dark sound comes from…
Keep it down, you might interrupt the circle jerk. Don’t worry, they will tire soon.
What is the point in ever defending a billionaire for any reason?
Other than the jet thing, does she really have a scandal?
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-33678225
She’s a lawful evil devil who seems to be very mean and very manipulative
Aka, a billionaire
So 1 guy.
I’m sorry, I’m gonna need more than that.
Maybe she’s horrible, maybe she wouldn’t sleep with him.
I don’t know, but I’m sure she’s not perfect, and we’ve all been an asshole to someone who didn’t deserve it on a bad day.
Now repeated behavior is a completely different thing
That’s not what he’s alleging. He’s implying that she has a network and team that will destroy people who publicly oppose her
When Swift gets critisized for reasonable things (shallow empty music, carbon footprint, being a money whoring marketing machine, you name it), some people will always spring out and imply that it’s sexism or a circle jetk or jealousy of her GREAT success. Lol.
No kidding!
I thought people were exaggerating about her fans, goddamn lol
I just don’t think anyone has that kind of drive their whole life without deepseated need of some kind to propel them
not only that, but a SUMMER HOME too?? the audacity, how can one live in only TWO houses?!
guys guys GUYS this song has lyrics in it that aren’t literally true omg
Wait, are you saying that Billy Joel doesn’t actually live in Allentown??
Maybe he did start the fire!
johnny cash is a fucking liar he never shot anyone in reno
Still one of the most metal lyrics ever.
“I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die”
How much more detached and psychotic can you get? Even with goregrind, the motive is clear, albeit deranged. This is just, fuck it, I just want this person dead just to see them die.
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no, it can be for other reasons, for example, self defence, a disagreement, to gain territory, for profit, expression of rage, etc etc. NB :these reasons might not be right or wrong, but they are motivations outside of seeing someone die.
The idea is that in "I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die” there is no other motivation. The only motive is to see the guy die, in a singularly morbid motivation.
And he was never a boy named Sue!
Hold the phone… You’re telling me that it’s possible that Bob Marley also shot the deputy? Wait… Did he even shoot the sheriff? And if so, how can we be sure that it was in self defense?! Oh man, my whole world is upside-down now.
also his name probably isn’t Sue.
That song was initially “Levittown,” but he changed it to make the message appear to a wider audience. And Billy Joel sings about growing up on Long Island all the time! You can still meet him at his Scenes Italian Restaurant if you know the right neighborhood.
He came into my job once! He’s a real jerk from what I’ve been told and wouldn’t even look at any of us let alone a nod or a wave as we’re just worthless factory schmucks lol
lol I blame the divorce
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Isn’t autobiographical songs and leaving breadcrumbs in lyrics and music videos Taylor’s whole schtick?
Have you met rich people? These two locations definitely housed the mentally unwell.
There was also no wifi.
And you have to put up with Wes Anderson constantly filming the bougie melodrama
She probably had to wash a few dishes at the summer home. Could you imagine?
The horror…the horror…
Most rich people are also sociopaths that show little to no empathy for their offspring.
ITT: people who would have thrown away rap albums when they found out the rapper never actually dealt drugs defending a billionaire from a little joke she’ll never see.
I throw away rap albums from the ones that actually are murderers, come at me
rap quality scales directly with how hard the lyrics diss violence
gangsters paradise is genuinely one of the best works of art ever made
Power and the money. Money and the power.
Raised a barn on monday. Soon I’ll raise another.
Like Travis Scott and those people he helped kill though crowd crush?
She sang fondly about that Christmas tree farm, so I guess this new song is just to shit talk about New Jersey.
Understandable
Aren’t her albums made up stories now, like theme albums? Like she did with Folklore?
So many celebrities and famous people grew up very well off, despite their relatable personas. If I ever get famous, I’ll be upfront about not being average or typical. I’m not normal. Not better or worse, just not like most people.
That’s how to get famous
I’ve met some famous people, and I wouldn’t say that’s entirely the case. I met some before they got famous, and they were genuinely skilled. However, they were so good thanks to their parents fostering their passion and paying for what they needed to improve. A minority of famous people actually grew up poor, but still made it. However, even they benefitted from forces outside their control like living near an artistic community or learning helpful ideas from some random person in their life.
Wealth doesn’t hand people success, but it does give them opportunities. They become good at something because they had everything they needed to succeed, while most people don’t. I’ve met rich kids who didn’t succeed despite the wealth, although not succeeding as a rich kid is far more forgiving than not succeeding if you’re poor.
Few people don’t work hard for success, but most people work hard and aren’t successful. Being born rich is luck, but so is having physical or mental traits that help you in what you do. Some people grow tall enough to play professional basketball, but most don’t. That’s not because they deserve it, but because they got lucky. That doesn’t take away from basketball players hard work, but they were only able to succeed because chance allowed them to.
Pretty much the story of my friend. He makes a ton of money as a computer scientist, but he worked for it as far as his education went. He just had a stable family to live with so no rent, he had a father who got him a job which paid like full time but allowed a flexible schedule, paid for his car and phone, etc…
He studied his ass off and was always at the school, but it’s because he had the support to be able to do that. We literally live opposite lives in almost every respect. I had none of what he had and so I’m stuck working in a factory living in someone’s garage. I couldn’t dedicate the time for what I thought I wanted and couldn’t risk spending the money to try as I have to move way too often and need a hefty savings for first month, security, broker fee… Being poor is expensive lol
This is why capitalism is anti-meritocracy. It creates inequality of opportunity by design. Like every argument for capitalism, it actually defeats itself if you think critically.
Capitalists are the ones that oppose meritocracy, innovation, consumer choice, personal freedoms, avoiding bureaucracy, efficiency, competition, and human well-being. They’re the ones who believe in free lunches, not the people who advocate for social safety nets. They think their system is stable and realistic, but they’re the ones living in fantasy land for thinking they can exploit without repercussion.
They’re in for a bad time like the rest of us, but they’re probably too stupid to understand that it’s their fault.
Jessica?
no, obviously not
Ofc
You know, I’m not like most girls.
You can fix me?
You were born in the West and not the North, South, East, or Center?
I’m just like you, only much, much better.
What’s “better” is relative to the goal and environment. In respect to being a functional adult, I’m definitely different ~I’m worse~
“You’re all different.”
"I’m not!
Always upvote PBS spacetime!
I mean, asylums aren’t known to be horrible because of the quality of the architecture, but how people treat other people in there.
I mean her parents would drive to NY for singing and acting lessons, the family relocated to Nashville to enable her carrer, paid for private school, beautiful homes… by all accounts her family provided a strong foundation for her to launch.
She’s been supported throughout her life, calling the way she was raised an “asylum” is kind of insulting to people that grew up wondering if there would be food on the table or if Dad was coming home angry again. Not to minimize her struggles but I’m willing to bet most people could actually last an hour
When people write songs are the lyrics always supposed to be literally true? There’s some interesting stuff happening out there if so…
Can’t believe Johnny Cash actually shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.
That fucker didn’t even hang. Music’s fucking gay bro
GWAR about to serve 800 life sentences.
I mean that sounds like it could be a story about super supportive parents, or it sounds like it could be a story about super psycho pageant mom type parents.
Even if it’s the former and they were genuinely supporting her dream and not their own, it still doesn’t mean it wasnt manic or stressful or crazy.
Or it could just be a made up fictional lyric, or one meant to reference her own internal psychological struggles with the asylum she’s trapped in being her own mind.
This meme quite frankly just seems like people who don’t understand music trying and failing to clown on the popular girl.
You may want to look more into it.
Her father was one of the principals on the closing of DreamWorks Nashville. Big Machine records is what DreamWorks Nashville was rebranded as once severed from the rest of the corporate structure.
He essentially took the commission he got from selling Toby Keith’s catalog and then reinvested it into Big Machine before it was open to other investors.
He essentially spent $2m to buy his daughter’s career.
Well at least it was a really good investment
If you just compare your life to some of the worst off then yeah, no one ever gets to complain about anything.
This whole outrage is misunderstanding the fact that people can have problems, especially perceive themselves as having problems, that are on their own scale and not comparable to the world at large. Also her songs are written to be relatable to some extent and not just 100% autobiographical so more people can envision their own problems and circumstances. But that’s like, 99% of music so it feels weird to say it.
She treats people horribly.
A lot of people treat others horribly.
Maybe we’re all just shit.
Our goal should be to resist and overcome those harmful instincts. That’s kinda the purpose of ethics/morality
Whereas her “art” seems to encourage us to give into our base impulses of vindictiveness, scorn, petty jealousy, grudges, etc.
Not a very Christlike role model. Which is ironic given the protestant religious/cultural upbringing of much of her fanbase
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Have been to New Jersey, lyrics check out.
Can some ELI5 Taylor Swift drama? I haven’t listener to her since middle school, and my sister’s keep trying to tell me what’s up but I have no context.
The conservatives don’t like her because she’s popular and she is pro LGBTQ+
That, and many liberals don’t like her bc she is extremely fucking rich, and grew up as such.
And she doesn’t say a peep when her zombie army of deranged cultists send death threats to people who review her albums in a negative manner.
She’s an opportunistic cunt.
Liberals care about that?
I thought hating the rich was a left thing?
As a leftist myself, I’m not a fan of TSwift, but I think there’s much bigger and much worse targets to meme about. So I think all these TSwift posts are conservatives or bots.
I guess I should have said leftist, I tend to use them interchangeably because the mean similar things, but your right, that is more of a leftist thing.
The left doesn’t like the rich. The right envies them. It all works out to dislike from both sides with the right willing to suck up since they have a never ending delusion that they will magically be rich one day.
And she tells her fans to go vote. Republicans really don’t like high voter turnout.
Voters turnout doesn’t favor one party over another
https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/does-high-voter-turnout-help-one-party
Yeah but Republicans think it does and have been trying to suppress voters for a while. Mostly in specific districts and for specific methods like threatening people using ballot drop boxes.
that’s a really interesting read. i’m surprised by the data. i couldn’t find any surface-level errors with it either. guess i got some thinkin to do.
Thanks!
i think im starting to understand why some people don’t really like this album.
though to be fair, i don’t listen to music to read a story. So.
You’re missing out if you’ve never heard Alice’s Restaurant Massacree by Arlo Guthrie.
i would post something culturally relevant here, but your root instance is funny to me, so that will suffice instead :)
I don’t even “hear” lyrics in songs! Is it typical for albums to have songs that tell an overall story?
Yeah. There are Rock operas which are albums that tell a unified story, but not one which is meant to be acted out like an actual opera.
The
DoorsWho album Tommy was one of the first to be billed as such. As well as most of what The Protomen and The Mechanisms have put out.The Doors album Tommy
You mean The Who?
Yeah, definitely. Thanks.
Now I’m imagining what Tommy performed by the Doors would sound like.
No, he’s on first.
re: dark side of the moon
It happens often, yes. But I wouldn’t say it’s “typical”. Depends on what the artist wants to convey.
Idk if common. It does happen tho.
a lot of times albums will have a flow from song to song. Sometimes they just have a collection of different songs, usually a thematic album will have an overall feel to it.
Same kind of asylum refugees be seeking1
Jenny from the Block moment.
As House of 1000 Corpses, by Rob Zombie, starts playing.
