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      Yup and if said person had acquantainces that are hostages, said person would be protesting against Israel actions and not parroting hasbara.

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      I remember as a kid playing Final Fantasy 6 and reaching the scene where Kefka poisons the water supply of an enemy castle despite knowing that some of his own side’s soldiers are being held there as prisoners

      At the time, I couldn’t help rolling my eyes and thinking “wow, this is just cartoonishly evil, no one would actually do this”

      I long for those more innocent days

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    “Why were your family members occupying Palestine?” If the family members were adults, they were either directly or tacitly supporting all the oppression of the palestinian people up to that point. More likely directly given their likely participating in the IOF.

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    Oct 7th is nothing compared to what Israel has been doing to Palestinians for the past 75+ years.

    If you kidnap/rape/torture/murder people who are trapped in an open-air prison on land you stole from them they are 100% justified in fighting back. You don’t get to occupy someone else’s land and then claim “self defense.”

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    "Then your family were members of a fascist settler state that has been committing genocide for the past 70 years. "

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    There is no scale between the Flood of al-Aqsa and what ‘Israel’ has been doing to Gaza for the past 7 months.

    a- 600 ‘Israelis’ were killed by the Resistance on October 7. Up to 200,000 – 10% of the population in Gaza – have been killed so far since then. The remaining 600 that ‘Israel’ claims died were either killed by their own country, or simply do not exist. The last toll that I heard of was between 800 to 1000.

    b- October 7 killed and made prisoners of soldiers. They were not “kidnapped” and held for ransom, they are POWs. Because all of them were soldiers. ‘Israel’ put them in harm’s way by having conscription laws and regardless, if you are a soldier of the colonial project, you should expect your service is not going to happen peacefully.

    c- ‘Israel’ has been bombing and starving the POWs in Gaza exactly because they are such important bargaining chips. Some years back they released thousands of Palestinians held in occupation prisons for one soldier.

    d- don’t care didn’t ask tbh is what I would tell them. If they have the humanity to worry about settlers they have the humanity to worry about Palestinians. Do they also cry on the day Hitler killed himself and worship an altar they have of him?

    There is simply no rational way ‘Israel’ comes out ahead when looking at the facts. Loyalty in a colony is first given to the colony before it is given to your fellow settlers. If they refuse to see this, they simply don’t want to see things as they are and will remain a settler.

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    same thing you say to people who had relatives killed by Stalin

    “there is a good chance they deserved it”

    by the way i see it, voluntarily settling in a land that’s being colonized and ethnically cleansed comes with accepting the idea that you and your family are at risk of suffering retaliation

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    If ur family is hostage, you would be protesting alongside the thousands of Israelis protesting against the reckless bombing of Gaza that is killing even the hostages.

    Obviously X person is larping and has 0 family in Israel.

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    What about it? Does it justify genocide? Okay, not genocide. Does it justify mass murder? What about everything they happened up to October 7th then? Did that justify October 7th? Up to October 6th was already the deadliest year on record for Palestinian children.

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    I say if you want Hamas to engage Israeli military targets, then we should supply them with the same weapons we supply to Israel. Then again, such weapons in Israeli hands are not guaranteed to be used solely on military targets…

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      Journalist: M. Ben M’Hidi, don’t you think it’s a bit cowardly to use women’s baskets and handbags to carry explosive devices that kill so many innocent people?

      Ben M’Hidi: And doesn’t it seem to you even more cowardly to drop napalm bombs on defenseless villages, so that there are a thousand times more innocent victims? Of course, if we had your airplanes it would be a lot easier for us. Give us your bombers, and you can have our baskets.

      -The Battle of Algiers

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    the same thing you answer to people who say they had family members killed guarding Auschwitz