This is ultimately the Jedi philosophy. Only use lethal force to defend oneself or others.
If the Oct 7 and ensuring events happened during, say that High Republic, the Jedi would be despatched to buffer the warzone. Then meditate between both sides like access to places of worship and settlement zoning, arrest anyone on both sides committing crimes against the Republic (kidnappers and war criminals) which would in turn please citizens on both sides. Then probably install a small Jedi outpost/temple to act as local peacekeepers. All to prevent more death, which is ultimately one of the main tenants of the Jedi Order.
One could argue Luke’s actions are the result of defense of others needed so direly after years of slaughter and against an indiscriminate killing machine by the Empire that the loss of life, albeit great, was justified.
Hey now, they’re only bombing the Gaza part of Palestine. In the West Bank they’re just shooting the people and stealing land slower. And in the rest of Palestine they haven’t needed to do much of either after they terrorized the locals into fleeing back in 1948.
There’s no doubt that Israelis are killing Palestinian people in much larger numbers than Palestinians are killing Israelis. Many people have many views on who is responsible for what, and there are a lot of difficult and complicated discussions that one might have, but for you to forget about all of the Palestinians who lost their lives is just disgraceful.
And vice versa. It’s known as the most complicated political quagmire of centuries. If you’re rooting for strictly one side or the other, you’re probably wrong.
Yes, it’s perfectly reasonable to want the war to stop. Once you start going farther than that…
Don’t allow people to push you to an extreme because you want to view your argument as a team sport.
If you’re rooting for strictly one side or the other, you’re probably wrong
The centrist take here really doesn’t work, it’s not a complicated problem. The Israeli state has been illegally settling land that already belonged to Palestinian citizens (illegally according to the UN, not to my ass), and Hamas spawned as a consequence of the people being forcibly removed under threat of violence. Israel is an apartheid settler state, and you may or may not agree with Hamas but the fact is that they’re an expected reaction to this.
Attacking civilians is always wrong, but it’s the expected consequence after decades of oppression and apartheid. The french revolution killed plenty of civilians, and I’m sure many of the instances were unjust, but when people revolt from oppression these things are bound to happen. The cure isn’t to murder more people, it’s to stop the oppression.
People who knew about the topic indeed expected the murderous state of Israel to respond extremely violently. It’s just the one who has the upper hand militarily and economically, and it chooses to perpetuate the cycle of violence and occupation.
Yeah, fuck those 4 year old terrorists. They didn’t deserve heads anyways. Those terrorists in graveyards deserved to be dug up. Controlled demolition of universities is necessary because most of the bricks are terrorists. If a handful of terrorists hide in a hospital, the only logical thing to do is bomb the fuck out of the hospital.
Nothing about how the IDF is behaving looks like targeted attacks on Hamas. Military experts everywhere have been telling Israel since the beginning that their tactics would fail and result in mass civilian casualties and a strengthened Hamas. Israel does it anyways because killing civilians is the objective. Destroying homes, hospitals, schools, universities, religious institutions, and even graveyards is the objective. Everything that ties the Palestinian people to their land is being destroyed in a bald faced effort to drive them away. That is genocide, and that is terrorism.
I don’t. The reality is in the news every single day. There is a reason why Israel is spending millions on a disinformation campaign and still losing the PR war, and it’s not a sudden resurgence of antisemitism. Israel is very quickly becoming a pariah nation. Even US support is starting to crack.
Maybe killing people is the wrong solution.
On one hand I totally agree, but on the other I would like to see billionaires on the guillotine.
This is ultimately the Jedi philosophy. Only use lethal force to defend oneself or others.
If the Oct 7 and ensuring events happened during, say that High Republic, the Jedi would be despatched to buffer the warzone. Then meditate between both sides like access to places of worship and settlement zoning, arrest anyone on both sides committing crimes against the Republic (kidnappers and war criminals) which would in turn please citizens on both sides. Then probably install a small Jedi outpost/temple to act as local peacekeepers. All to prevent more death, which is ultimately one of the main tenants of the Jedi Order.
One could argue Luke’s actions are the result of defense of others needed so direly after years of slaughter and against an indiscriminate killing machine by the Empire that the loss of life, albeit great, was justified.
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We’re trying, but they continue to bomb Palestine.
Hey now, they’re only bombing the Gaza part of Palestine. In the West Bank they’re just shooting the people and stealing land slower. And in the rest of Palestine they haven’t needed to do much of either after they terrorized the locals into fleeing back in 1948.
There’s no doubt that Israelis are killing Palestinian people in much larger numbers than Palestinians are killing Israelis. Many people have many views on who is responsible for what, and there are a lot of difficult and complicated discussions that one might have, but for you to forget about all of the Palestinians who lost their lives is just disgraceful.
And vice versa. It’s known as the most complicated political quagmire of centuries. If you’re rooting for strictly one side or the other, you’re probably wrong.
Yes, it’s perfectly reasonable to want the war to stop. Once you start going farther than that…
Don’t allow people to push you to an extreme because you want to view your argument as a team sport.
The centrist take here really doesn’t work, it’s not a complicated problem. The Israeli state has been illegally settling land that already belonged to Palestinian citizens (illegally according to the UN, not to my ass), and Hamas spawned as a consequence of the people being forcibly removed under threat of violence. Israel is an apartheid settler state, and you may or may not agree with Hamas but the fact is that they’re an expected reaction to this.
“Hamas spawned”. So in your view Hamas has done nothing wrong?
Attacking civilians is always wrong, but it’s the expected consequence after decades of oppression and apartheid. The french revolution killed plenty of civilians, and I’m sure many of the instances were unjust, but when people revolt from oppression these things are bound to happen. The cure isn’t to murder more people, it’s to stop the oppression.
What was the expected consequence after October 7th?
If war crimes, mass murder and genocidal sentiments are something to be expected of a country you probably shouldnt be sending them military hardware
People who knew about the topic indeed expected the murderous state of Israel to respond extremely violently. It’s just the one who has the upper hand militarily and economically, and it chooses to perpetuate the cycle of violence and occupation.
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Yeah, fuck those 4 year old terrorists. They didn’t deserve heads anyways. Those terrorists in graveyards deserved to be dug up. Controlled demolition of universities is necessary because most of the bricks are terrorists. If a handful of terrorists hide in a hospital, the only logical thing to do is bomb the fuck out of the hospital.
Nothing about how the IDF is behaving looks like targeted attacks on Hamas. Military experts everywhere have been telling Israel since the beginning that their tactics would fail and result in mass civilian casualties and a strengthened Hamas. Israel does it anyways because killing civilians is the objective. Destroying homes, hospitals, schools, universities, religious institutions, and even graveyards is the objective. Everything that ties the Palestinian people to their land is being destroyed in a bald faced effort to drive them away. That is genocide, and that is terrorism.
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Why? I don’t see sources for all your bullshit.
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I don’t. The reality is in the news every single day. There is a reason why Israel is spending millions on a disinformation campaign and still losing the PR war, and it’s not a sudden resurgence of antisemitism. Israel is very quickly becoming a pariah nation. Even US support is starting to crack.
Look at any news source. Literally any of them. Israel has repeatedly attached Gaza’s healthcare infrastructure.
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Lmao. So Israel didn’t have a general give a CNN news crew a tour of a hospital basement after fighting through that hospital?
This shit is freely available on the web. It’s not obscure, it’s not behind paywalls, and it’s 100% a war crime.
I will if I ever meet one.