• JohnBrownsBussy2 [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      If the democrats believed this, and cared about democracy, then they wouldn’t keep a dying man as their nominee or they would be using his Supreme Court-affirmed absolute immunity to neutralize this existential threat. Let me know if they have a strategy other than gaslighting and blackmailing the people they claim to represent.

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      The choice is simple.

      Biden wins and you can have genocide.

      Trump wins and you can also have genocide.

      Wow, this is incredibly inspiring. Please direct me to the polls right now!

      edit: Also, the USA has never been a democracy. Project 2025, more like Project 1492, am I right?

      also edit: if I were president, and the SCOTUS just declared that I am an emperor immune to all prosecution, I would simply imprison my political opponents (plus all landlords and business owners and police officers and soldiers, except those vouched for by workers), I would free everyone currently in prison, establish universal health care, education, and housing, forgive all debt, close all military bases, withdraw the US military from around the planet, return all indigenous land and sovereignty to indigenous people, expropriate all millionaires and billionaires and use their stolen money to pay the current value of forty acres and a mule plus interest to all descendants of slaves (and also pay reparations to every country harmed by the USA (so, every country outside the western bloc)), connect the country with a national bullet train network, dismantle all nuclear weapons, reintroduce covid precautions (deporting to europe anyone who even raises an eyebrow in response), nationalize all corporate and social media and use it to relentlessly bombard the populace with Marxist history and amerikkka bad communist propaganda 24/7, and, as my final act, pull down the American flag that’s on top of the White House and declare that the USA has been dissolved and no longer exists

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      I’m gonna go vote so fucking hard just like when Germany defeated fascism when they elected Hindenburg. Fuck yeahdean-smile

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      that someone else will also be a genocider and your brilliant plan’s gonna be to vote for him cos it’s once again the most important election of our lives. incredible that you keep falling for this.

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          I’m not expecting to push the Dems left anymore than I expect to push the Republicans left.

          The Democratic establishment is committing genocide you stupid motherfucker. That’s like pushing the Nazi party left, the whole idea is asinine.

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              Biden is burning babies to death you ghoul. I’m not voting for him. None of us are, he’s arguably more evil than Trump. The scale of war, and mass death he’s currently complicit in dwarfs anything Trump did. It disgusts me, that Gaza would not be a red line for someone. You either don’t care about people other than yourself or you view those outside the bubble of the West as less human than westerners, either way fuck you.

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                  You’re exhorting us to give Biden a pass on killing civilians men, women and children right now.

                  Nobody here is voting Trump, you literally are going to vote for Biden, while he bombs the shit out of schools and refugee camps.

                  You deserve to rot in a prison cell you dirty Nazi rat.

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          the dems exist to prevent any push to the left, that’s the entire point of their existence. what are you talking about?

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      Many full-time Americans seem to view electoralism through the lens of civil religion, where “The Election” is a sacred ritual and a good unto itself, regardless of what tangible effects it may or may not have. These Americans fear for the day when their precious ritual is taken away, never minding that the vote is already denied either directly or indirectly to countless Americans.

      I myself come from a family of US overseas citizens, and wouldn’t you know, in 2022 the voter turnout among US overseas citizens was apparently only some 3.4%, meaning that US citizens living in the fifty stars’ share of Occupied Turtle Island and Occupied Hawai’i were 18x more likely to vote than those living abroad. You cannot attribute that enormous gap in voter turnout to simple apathy on the part of overseas citizens, because trust me, US overseas citizens are by all means aware of the impact of American politics on the rest of the world, frankly considerably more aware than most US resident citizens, since we overseas citizens get to directly witness and even uncomfortably embody for ourselves the dynamic between the United States and other countries — and by all means we would want to use the rights that we have as US citizens to effect positive change, wouldn’t we? There’s about three million US overseas citizens who are eligible to vote in US elections, and that’s no small number, is it?

      But that’s exactly why voter turnout is so small among US overseas citizens, I say. A huge share of that turnout gap can be attributed to the added challenges that tend to come with voting from abroad, and this is not to mention the ways in which these challenges may intersect with other barriers to voting that may be disproportionately represented among US overseas citizens. And as we say, “POSIWID” — “The purpose of a system is what it does”. So perhaps overseas voting is so tedious because it incentivizes US overseas citizens to “come back”, where voting is easier; perhaps overseas voting is made so tedious because US overseas citizens will carry more radical “foreign” perspectives and ideas, that are way too “dangerous” to be allowed representation in government; and perhaps the barriers to overseas voting are increased or decreased, rights granted or taken away, based on whatever happens to be the most convenient for whoever is in power to hold on to power; and perhaps all three of these are true at the same time.

      So I think that my family experience, that consciousness about my place in the world as a US overseas citizen born abroad, snapped me out of Usonian election-worship pretty early on: I see that I get to experience taxation without effective representation, because I’m the one who gets to see the Seppo military bases actually built in my backyard and painting targets on my country’s back. I see that this awareness that I and surely many other US overseas citizens have, is a considerably bigger threat to power in old Seppoland than the white suburbs of that occupation zone, who get to have their own sexy sexy polling stations such that they can play pretend that Team Red and Team Blue are not simply two wings of the same bourgeois party.

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          Biden has been given a golden opportunity to do anything he wants legally, if you believe the republicans will go so far as to suspend all local elections then nothing is off the table to save america. Biden has 5 months to, at the very least, pack/replace the supreme court and kill the machine that republicans have built, it’s 100% within his power. He’s either complicit or good, he can’t be both, and if he’s complicit then a vote for Biden is a vote for Trump, and if he’s good the election won’t matter anymore. I already know how this is going to go, the sundowning genocidal trad-cath with a long history of racism and corruption isn’t actually good, but I hope you eventually see it too.

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                  I’m a married father who has been working a full time job for almost two decades. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn’t make them a child.

                  And nobody here is powerful, if we were, then we’d probably put a stop the the genocide you’re cheerleading in here.

                  Finally, you obviously don’t have better things to do, Nazi, or you wouldn’t keep replying to everything. Deleting your comments mid conversation while continuing to argue just proves that you can’t stand by your past statements, no even from 30 minutes ago.

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      Then I don’t have a choice this year, do I? That’s 3 elections in a row in which I haven’t had a choice. Doesn’t sound very democratic to me soviet-hmm

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      Trump wins and you’ll have no vote in 2025.

      This sounds like a good capitalist economic policy actually. No more elections means you don’t have to waste government money on it and no more manipulating people into donating money. I mean you’re getting genocide anyway, no need to spend money to get there