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    The news article title is:

    ‘Fascist’ and ‘tyrant’ DeSantis under fire after removing another black elected Democratic state attorney

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              Problem is so are many of the judges that would theoretically see his case. The theocratic, white ethno-project has been incubating in the United States since the 70s. Democrats are too spineless to attempt to balance the Supreme Court, and all the appointees that have been made to the lower circuits will take time to be felt - time I don’t think the US has before it risks going the way of the Weimar Republic.

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          Public figures have higher barriers of proof for those accusations than a private individual would

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        The quotation marks are precisely why I changed the headline to something that doesn’t need quotes but is still accurate and won’t open up slander/libel.

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      Yes, but the article puts each in quotes, meaning it’s referring to what sources have said as opposed to making the statement itself - I wanted to use similar language as to how these events get reported on in US media when they happen outside of the country.

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      From a CNN article:

      The Florida constitution allows a governor to remove an elected official for “malfeasance, misfeasance, neglect of duty, habitual drunkenness, incompetence, or permanent inability to perform official duties.” No previous Florida executive has interpreted that power as broadly as DeSantis. The state Senate can reinstate Worrell, but the chamber is controlled by Republicans closely aligned with DeSantis and have rarely stood in his way.

      Warren’s attempts at reinstatement have failed. A federal judge ruled DeSantis had acted unconstitutionally in suspending Warren, writing that there was “not a hint of misconduct by Mr. Warren” in the trial record, but he ultimately dismissed the case saying he did not have the power to intervene on a state matter. The state Supreme Court tossed Warren’s lawsuit in state court earlier this summer.

      Monique Worrell was the attorney recently dismissed and Andrew Warren is the one who was dismissed last year.

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        Things like this always make me wonder if a state could legally turn into a dictatorship.

        Could Florida legally change it’s constitution to say “All governing power rests entirely in Ron DeSantis” and dissolve it’s representative bodies? Obviously it would still be beholden to voters for national elections (representatives and senators), but statewide there could be nothing.

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          Technically, no. The Constitution says “the United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,” but “republican” has historically been very loosely interpreted. Technically, China and North Korea are both republics.

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              Well part of the problem is that there isn’t total agreement on what a republic is. By some definitions it’s basically anything that isn’t a monarchy. Some medieval republics didn’t have elections and instead chose their officials by sortition, which is essentially a lottery. China and North Korea do have elections, but they’re total shams (and North Korea is basically a monarchy is a thin coat of republican paint, since by law they can’t have any leader that isn’t descended from Kim Il Sung).

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            According to Putin, from the Russian republic, there’s no need to hold elections if you know what the likely result will be.

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          Possibly. The problem is that the founders decided to bake in armed revolt as a safe guard instead if, you know, reasonable solutions.

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        The state Supreme Court tossed Warren’s lawsuit in state court earlier this summer.

        Why the fuck? You know, besides the fascism…

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        Thank you for providing an actual answer!

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      It’s not…but unless someone actually stands up to him, it’s just another crime our politicians get away with.

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      Yeah why did he even run for that job just to immediately turn around and run for another? How is that ok?

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      He had the super majority change the goddamn rules just for him. Because Florida doesn’t need a governor? He is a royal Asshole

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    Watch a dem do the same and have every maga POS tripping over themselves to call them out.

    Dems have to start fighting fire with fire.

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      That’s a problem when you have one group trying to do what is remotely morally right and another who doesn’t care and wants to “win” at any cost.

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        It’s also a problem when a group has most of the guns and is stupid enough to use them without thought for the consequences. Moreso when the authorities responsible for enforcing those consequences tend to be in agreement if not allegiance with the group in question.

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          I wouldn’t be so sure that they have us out armed. The majority of veterans are left leaning, and most of us kept our service sidearms and rifles.

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            Huh? What bullshit is that? As an actual leftist veteran I know that most veterans are not left leaning. I also know that the US military does not let you keep any sidearms or rifles with you even while you are in. That stuff gets locked up in the arms room. CIF doesn’t even let you keep your canteens when you ETS, let alone weapons.

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              Anecdotal, but I had a roommate who was a veteran. He most definitely still had his rifle. He was also very left leaning.

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              The Vietnam era vets kept a lot of guns from their tours. Stuff gets lost in wartime and they were more lenient back then.

              I’m a vet too and I know lots of vets. Most of them are left leaning. Most of us have guns.

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        They’ve gone through all the effort of putting their teeth closer to your boots, it’d be inconsiderate to not let them meet.

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      They need to actually have an airtight cause to remove them - plus I am not sure if this is a Florida Governor power or if other governors have similar powers. Midwestern Dems are using their political power though, such as the new Wisconsin Democrat-controlled Supreme Court: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dfKZzOeAJs

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      You’re not missing anything, WDW hasn’t been worth the price of admission since 2019. This from a former WDW Employee.

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        As a former Disneyland cast member, I’m very interested to see the difference between the resorts. I should do it soon before Florida does even more despicable shit.

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          I’ve been to WDW, DL, and DLP. I last went to WDW in Dec 2020. It was terrible; the way they changed the fast pass system made it far more difficult to ride the rides. The cast members did not seem to even want to be there, and honestly, the magic wasn’t there. I went to DL a year ago and it was fantastic. The cast members is in the groove, making the experience top tier, the crowds were having fun, and it was full of that Disney magic.

          As for Disney Land Paris, skip it (I lived in Europe at the time). Zero magic, it felt like a six flags, no magic.

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        I wanted to live in florida. I love the weather. It’s been my dream to move there and now that the kids are grown up and I have the means to move there, I don’t want anything to do with that state in its current form. It really sucks.

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      I’ve never been and will probably never go. We’ll just settle with the other one in CA.

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      Same for me. I grew up in Florida and lived there for decades. I haven’t been back since 2018 and I don’t know if I ever will, which is a kind of sad feeling tbh.

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    It’s about time we start thinking about the plan where he is removed by a “candidate” who has nothing to live for

    At this rate, he can handpick the Secretary of State who can rig the governor vote in his favor and he will never lose any election

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      Like in Georgia where the secretary of state didn’t recuse themselves from the responsibility of managing the election then ran for governor. Cities get hours long waits and rural areas have no problems. Also sending voting machine to black districts without power cords.

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      I agree that he’s a cancer to society and the US would be better off with him out of office.

      However, “removed by a “candidate” who has nothing to live for” sounds an awful lot like advocating for violence which I absolutely disagree with.

      Vote, get others to vote, advocate, protest, donate if able, and don’t give clicks to articles/platforms on fascists.

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        Soap box

        Ballot Box

        And the other box

        This is a…thought… if “ballot box” doesn’t work and the election is rigged

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    This shouldn’t happen in America. And the guy who did it shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the White House," said David Rothkopf, a noted foreign policy, national security and political affairs expert and commentator.

    I agree that this shouldn’t be happening, but it is. It’s a clear indication of the GOP wanting to operate as a fascist party, and this needs to be taken seriously. I hope that happens.

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    Florida is the capital of the New Confederacy that liters nobody wants. If you just stop giving money to the crooked catholic shitcunt church and the evangelical shitcunt church then we probably wouldn’t have this problem.

    The state has 56 white supremacy groups. What do you think goes on down there?

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    Was there even anything for him to backup removing her other than “for neglecting her duty to faithfully prosecute crime in her jurisdiction”? Sounds pretty fascist to me but that is the Republican dream isn’t it?

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    So the question is - had she been neglecting to prosecute crime? The article doesn’t even attempt to deny it which is a bit odd.

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      What crimes is DeSantis naming then? What specific examples has she failed to prosecute? There’s nothing to deny, its targeted.

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        I saw this last night while looking into it:

        https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1689292509086724096?s=46&t=Cbb3biYQblpmbWC3J0KfQg

        I’m sure it’ll be dismissed because “Elon site bad” though, but it shows a pretty clear refusal to actually prosecute blatant crimes that lead to even more loss of life.

        What do you think of those crimes that she chose not to prosecute? If these are to be believed then yeh, it’s “targeted” - targeted at someone not doing their job, resulting in unnecessary deaths and crime.

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          It’s targeted if he decides to remove her but not any other DA in Florida is guilty of doing the same things. Why wait till he’s on the campaign trail to suspend her? Why wait for all these instances to pile up? How many other times did her restorative approach to prosecution not result in subsequent additional criminal activity? How does that compare to people who leave prison and return to crime?

          Furthermore, if he wants to remove her for dereliction of duty, and not simply seize more power for himself, he wouldn’t have appointed a political ally into the position. It’s overriding the will of the people who elected her, who are the ones who should remove her from office.