• Comment105
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    5 hours ago

    You started this by blaming vegans for reducing interest in animal rights, surely a projection of how you feel onto society.

    Nope, that’s literally just what has happened.

    Consider the fucking argument, consider how widely unpopular you are.

    Veganism will never be the global majority, you’re delusional to think you’re supporting animal rights if you are so vehemently against enforcing better conditions in captivity. Vegans drew the line: “Animal rights activists shouldn’t want animal rights in captivity.” That’s why we are where we are today, that’s why factory farms have gotten worse and worse.

    …your excuse for not learning more about veganism or trying it…

    Fuck you.

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      4 hours ago

      Factory farms won’t get better until demand reduces.

      Got any great ideas to make factory farms more humane that won’t slow down production of meat? Is the demand going up or down over time?

      Of course the answer can’t be reducing meat consumption in general, right? Dont have to be vegan to eat less meat do you now?

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        50 minutes ago

        You can literally enforce better conditions in farms, making factory farming practices illegal, and it’s possible we could’ve had the support required to make it happen.

        If you amend your messaging and behavior even a little bit, it might still be possible.

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          How would we do that without dramatically reducing the amount of meat being produced?

          As for the support, it sounds like you are blaming vegans for factory farmers actions. If they want to do things more humanely they are free to do it.

          Its a waste of time in my opinion, and its hypocritical to be an animal activist who eats animals.

          We can have a conversation about the ethical slaughterhouse in your mind but I guarantee you we will not agree on what is ethical treatment of an animal if thats the case.

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        Factory farms won’t get better until demand reduces

        I don’t believe you have any proof of this. there is no mechanism by which reducing demand would improve factory farms.

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          52 minutes ago

          Why do factory farms use outdated slaughter techniques in the first place? Production quantity comes first. They will not reduce their capacity to produce meat just to make the animals lives better.

          Where’s the evidence that your idea is any better than mine anyways?