An important question this article ignores, is why private school vouchers are chosen over public schools?

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    3 months ago

    The cost per pupil for a k-12 education is almost twice as much in public schools vs private. Twice the money and half the results.

    Why do you want to waste money on a failing system?

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      3 months ago

      Do you have a source to back up this claim because it’s completely reversed from anything I’ve seen and I’d like to understand it better.

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          3 months ago

          I thought you said average prices, not one state four years ago.

          Edit to add: 2020 doesn’t compare to 2024 prices. This is an apples and oranges comparison.

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                The only way I see them working is they are limited and possibly income based.

                Meaning if the voucher is worth 10k. You can only spend 10k. You can pay more. That’ll encourage schools to keep their prices down. If someone wants to send their kids to an 11k school they have to pay the whole 11k.

                I don’t know the right dollar amount but there should be a cap. Right parents are often sending their kids to private schools anyway. The goal of vouchers is to push bottom scoring schools to do better or another way is you only get vouchers if you school is scoring in a certain category.

                The school I attended was one of the top in the nation. My family was poor but hypothetically we shouldn’t be offered vouchers due to the quality of education provided.

                I see inner cities getting the most benefit but rural America will still struggle. That’s a tough nut to crack since the population density is low.

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                  I see inner cities getting the most benefit but rural America will still struggle. That’s a tough nut to crack since the population density is low.

                  That amusingly enough is also a reason why public schools cost more than private schools.

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                    Rural tends to spend less per student. Schools are funded by local taxes for the majority of the expenditures. When most your population is below poverty level income, you just don’t want the tax base. You also can’t get private schools to compete for the 10 kids in the class. So that’s one scenario I don’t know what the right answer is.

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            3 months ago

            Ohio is spending more per pupil in 2024, they are above $14,000 but I’m having trouble finding the report. The trend is still the same it’s significantly more to educate a kid in public school.

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      3 months ago

      What is insane is the left says we should be more like Sweden. When you agree and say we should do vouchers, they melt down. We spend way too much money on education with poor results. Too much ideology in public schools and not enough education. Back when my kid was in high school; they kept going on about sex , gender and how republicans are bad. The school academics were horrible. We pulled her out and put her in a private school. Her standardized testing scores sky rocketed up. Best thing we ever did.

      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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        Who has spoken about Sweden besides you?

        My kids spend more time with me then at school and they have a solid foundation and an ability to think critically, I’m not afraid of any scary knowledge they might learn from school, friends, the internet or any other source that I wouldn’t be able to control the rest of their lives and wouldn’t want to anyways.

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          The left never says we should be more like Sweden?

          Who said anything about scary knowledge? It’s the lack of focus on academics.

      • P00ptart@lemmy.world
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        They don’t teach that Republicans are bad. They figure that out for themselves using critical thinking since they’re not indoctrinated with all that “god” bs in school.

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          Not that was an actual class lesson. Packed her ass up and sent her to a private school.

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            No it wasn’t. Just because you took offense to historical accuracy, doesn’t mean that there was some specific lesson plan to say Republicans are bad.

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              3 months ago

              Are you still fuming that we took your slaves away and that’s makes us bad people?

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                3 months ago

                Modern Republicans and Republicans of the era are nothing alike and you know it. Republicans are trying to bring back slavery in the form of prison labor.

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                  They are exactly the same. Democrats still want to divide everyone into racial groups and treat them differently. They’re just upset we took their slaves.

                  Prison labor has always been allowed.

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                    There was a switch in ethics and values. You really think southern racists are still voting Democrat? You’ve got a lot of inward reflecting to do. Shame you managed to propagate.