• ThrowawayOPM
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    11 months ago

    Its what those cities wanted, right? I can not wait until they figure out that no one can handle that many immigrants.

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      11 months ago

      I can not wait until they figure out that no one can handle that many immigrants.

      Which is why instead of bussing them all to a singular location, immigration reform needs to take place to make it easier to track who is coming in, and to spread people out so it’s not just one community that needs to adjust.

      Why do you guys get so much enjoyment over people struggling to do the right thing?

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        11 months ago

        Becuase they’re not trying “to do the right thing”. That’s a nice strawman. Look at NY, Martha’s Vineyard. The didn’t want these people in their back yards

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          Becuase they’re not trying “to do the right thing”.

          Helping people get back on their feet, getting them the work they want is the leat we can do given that we played a hand in their countries’ respective downfalls. It was the U.S. that played the biggest role in destabilizing Latin America.

          Helping them is the right thing to do.

          Look at NY, Martha’s Vineyard. The didn’t want these people in their back yards

          That’s not really what happened with that. Martha’s Vineyard is a set of island with a small population of about 17,000. For reference, my city alone has a couple hundred thousand.

          So when they were sent shit loads of immigrants, they couldn’t handle it. The solution is to spread the load. Border states shouldn’t take the brunt of it, neither should small population centers.

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          11 months ago

          Don’t forget he’s a communist. The right thing is you paying to support the illegals. SMH. Was can’t continue to absorb the cost is the illegal aliens. It’s breaking budgets.

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            Don’t forget he’s a communist.

            No I’m not. Communism is largely a failure of an economic system, just as capitalism is. I’m not a capitalist or a communist, both systems are broken.

            Was can’t continue to absorb the cost is the illegal aliens. It’s breaking budgets.

            Immigrants actually, generally, are beneficial for economies. When they come here, they generally do so for the work, they pay taxes, and they make businesses. Anecdotally, I know if my Costa Rican extended family was able to immigrate, they would reopen their mom and pop store here.

            https://www.cbpp.org/research/immigrants-contribute-greatly-to-us-economy-despite-administrations-public-charge-rule

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              You are a communist. You preach wealth distribution and that the rich should create a welfare state for those who won’t work. Since you like the bible so much,

              “If anyone is not willing to work, don’t let him eat"

              Once again it isn’t my job to provide for others. They need to provide for themselves. The creation of a welfare state is not the American dream.

              Not sure why you are moving the goal post. I clearly said illegal immigration.

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                You are a communist

                I outright said that communism is a failure.

                I clearly said illegal immigration.

                I thought we were in agreement that the immigration process needs reformed to make it easier for people to legally immigrate? I was operating under that assumption.

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                  11 months ago

                  and capitalism is a great success. Our standard of living is amazing in this country. Sweden is another great example of capitalism working.

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                    and capitalism is a great success

                    No it isn’t. Both systems are failures.

                    Sweden is another great example of capitalism working.

                    So you would be ok with a Swedish version of capitalism? Including a generous welfare state?

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      11 months ago

      San Francisco already can’t handle what they have

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        True. Hopefully the pressure gets them to rethink their politics. It’s one thing to hear about a problem that’s far away and think it’s not a big deal, it’s another when it’s at your front door.

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          Hopefully the pressure gets them to rethink their politics.

          Yeah, and then one frog turned the other and said “getting pretty hot in here, let’s leave.”

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          I doubt it. When I lived there, it was fairly mixed with politics. It wasn’t as crazy as it is now.

          A good example is the trans man who was stealing, attacked a security guard and was shot. That wouldn’t have been an issue when I lived there. People didn’t worship criminals when I lived there. They wanted more help for the poor but they didn’t condone criminality.

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            People didn’t worship criminals when I lived there.

            they didn’t condone criminality.

            This is a ridiculous make believe fan fiction and it shows you have no grasp of whats going on in America, and actively reject the idea of trying.

            Thank you once again for helping to make the political views you espouse look like xenophobic ravings. You make my life easier.

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            Bonus points:

            A good example is the trans man who was stealing

            Why would it matter if they were trans, unless you are engaging in transphobia?