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        If it’s delicious I could have my mind changed, I will admit

        I am one of those who enjoys oatmeal raisin cookies, so it is entirely plausible; but in Mac and Cheese it seems… dubious

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          Cheese and fruit are a pretty well known and loved combination (not just fresh like on a cheese board, but things like chutney too), I don’t see why it wouldn’t work (I wouldn’t eat it because I don’t like raisins, but I don’t object to the idea)

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            Yeah, totally. I’ve had cheese that was aged in raisins. Fruit and cheese are friends.

            I’m very selective about my raisin eating. I don’t tend to like them in desserts, but love them in savory dishes. A lot of cuisines utilize raisins in this manner - North Africa and Mexico immediately come to mind.

            I think the issue here is ultimately about texture more than flavor. I don’t want a chewy raisin in a rich, melty sauce. They’re good in kugel, which are also made of noodles, but the texture is very different. They’re springy, tender, and solid. Much more welcoming of raisins.

            Beyond that, I don’t really want any major modifications to my mac and cheese. It’s comfort food and part of that comfort is how familiar it is. I don’t really want anything in there. Even something like bacon or tomatoes, both of which would probably taste really good. Mac and cheese is just one of those things that I want to enjoy simply. Additional ingredients would only detract from the experience.

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            Figs make amazing pizza toppers. Especially with feta or goat cheese. I could see it working in theory for sure, but like you, I am not a big fan of raisins in general lol

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          I’ve had a pizza with figs to surprisingly great success. It made me a lot more willing to try sweet things with cheese because it was insanely delicious. I’d be mildly concerned because I don’t really like raisins but I would at least try this once.

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          Awesome! I hope you enjoy it but I expect you won’t.These debates confuse me, taste is taste. Each of us has a unique set of chemoreceptors, nurves, and neurons which creates our sense of taste. What’s tasty to one person could be vile to another. Cilantro tastes like soap to a small fraction of the population. So why do so many people care about this stuff? It’s not like they’re eating rotten food or glass.

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        I suppose the goal would be a salty sweet combo, but a raisins texture seems really off-putting for Mac and cheese.

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    And I have the same reaction I have to most of these types of things - I wonder what it tastes like, and wish I could try it.

    I’ve never understood why these things trigger such uproar. It’s not like it’s poison or some sort of bodily secretion or something - it’s just a somewhat unusual but entirely edible ingredient. And it could be good. So what’s the problem?

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      elaborate performative outrage is just fun for its own sake sometimes idk

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            I’ve only ever seen one copy on an Australian YouTube channel. They were doing outback survival and they brought out this book as a joke. It was a real book though and I’ve sought it to have, but I think it was likely self-published so not many copies exist. How many publishers would commit to publishing such material? Not many. It is my white whale. This book of shit.

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      I agree. For example, I love cranberry sauce. I make it homemade and put it on everything during Thanksgiving. That includes Mac and cheese. And it’s really good! I wouldn’t be surprised if raisins could supply a similar sweetness.

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        I wanted to say “in Austria, they put „Preiselbeerkompott“ on Cordon Bleu and (ChatGPT said it’s called like that:) game like boar and pheasant“

        But the European Preiselbeere is just the smaller cousin of the Cranberry, they taste the same.

        I figured it’ll help anyone speaking German who reads this, so I typed it out after I got my answers.

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      Well a lot of people don’t like raisins, so that’s why it’s triggering an uproar?

      It’s weird that you are forgetting that not everyone likes every food.

      It’s awesome that you like raisins. Don’t need to dismiss those who don’t.

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        And I don’t like curry, but I’m not a acting like an upset 8yo every day that India exists.

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          That’s not the same, but okay.

          Imagine taking your favourite dish and adding something you hate into it. That’s the equivalent.

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              It’s very cool that you’ve never had any opinions about food before. Congratulations.

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                It’s not that I don’t have opinions because I do, obviously, but I don’t get to the point where it upsets me because it does not affect me just like it didn’t affect anyone else. How I make food won’t be forced to change so it doesn’t matter if others do things differently.

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                  You’re getting upset over people hearing about someone adding an ingredient they don’t like into a globally recognized dish, and saying “ew”.

                  You’re acting like these people are protesting in the streets.

                  Have a little fun, my guy. People reacting to this saying “ew” is okay. I also personally think the idea of it is gross, and personally I won’t be trying it. Even if it turns out to be amazing, the texture is too much for me, and that’s okay.

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      I don’t want rubbery, sweet shit in my Mac and cheese.

      On their own this m they’re fine.

      Do you like pickles in your ice cream?

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        There’s pickles flavored ice cream, and it’s not bad. I tasted it at one of those 1000 flavors ice cream shops. People are really missing out if they think ice cream should only be diabetes flavored. Salted caramel, peanuts, sour and sweet flavors. They all work really well in ice cream form.

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        Seriously. Craisins = great. Raisins = bullshit bad wasted grape. Redeemable if they’re Raisinets or yogurt covered raisins. (I actually don’t hate raisins, but all of the other options are better by a mile.)

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      If you can tell me there are quality raisins than the ones in those little boxes I had as a kid, I’ll try them and maybe change my mind.

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      Raisins are good and anyome who thinks otherwise is a stupif fucking pile of dogshit, just my opinion though.

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    There are raisins in some currys, and raisins in coronation chicken. I dont see how this would be much different.

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    You all thought I was crazy for wanting pineapple on pizza! How do you like me now!

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    We live on a spinning spaceship made out of rock with 8 billion people on it and THIS is what people talk about?

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    A curse to live to such an age, where foul raisins defile such an innocent dish.

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      Whoever gets it has to make the next Mac and cheese.

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    You’re kicked out of the potluck for life if you bring this over.

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      You mean there’s a surefire way not to get invited to potlucks? Hold my raisins!

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        Don’t want to go to a potluck!? I mean dinner party sure I’ll play dead to get out of that, but a potluck where you can eat free food while hiding in the play house like a goblin to avoid small talk! You need friends who can cook better.

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      So, putting mayor’s pants in potluck does not warrant a lifetime ban, but one little rasin does?

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    As an european mac and cheese is already an abomination that you dont even know if people actually eat it in america or the media is playing a trick on the whole of europe.

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      What exactly is the abomination here? Pasta with cheese is also eaten a lot in Europe. Just look at Spaghetti cacio e pepe or Käsespätzle?

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        Well the proportions of the ingredients are different and european cheese is usually made out of milk wnd not plastic. I made the huge mistake of going to an italian restaurant(had a good rating) and spent a good chunk of money on one of the worst meals i ever ate in my life. But look if you like it i have nothing against you just dont try to call it italian.

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        That’s the cheapest and worst version of the dish. Splurge a little. Get Velveeta shells and cheese.

        Or make a cheese sauce, cook some decent macaroni, and stick it in the oven with some bread crumbs on top. Much better that way

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          Personally, I think the Velveeta shells and cheese is far inferior to Kraft.

          I don’t think Kraft is necessarily the best Mac and cheese either but for me it beats the hell out of Velveeta.

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      I moved from europe to canada, and they actually eat that thing. I tried in europe before, and the authentic here it’s just as bad

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    I notice how it doesn’t say whether it’s good or bad things. I’m going to guess it’s mostly bad. I don’t need or want sweet Mac and cheese in my life.

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    Haha you just just discovered kugel?