Watching the video that MEMO posted (Qatari backed, pro Hamas outlet) that person seems to say something different (according the supplied subtitles as other subtitles are blurred for some reason). He says “anyone who identifies as Israeli welcome, anyone who wants to identify with Gaza I’m happy to put them on a bus to Gaza”. Am I wrong because even for sensationalism this title seems excessive.
That’s even worse lol. They’re actively bombing and starving everyone in Gaza. ‘If you identify with Gaza, I will happily help you get killed by us’ is the message. If anything the editorializing tamed down the rhetoric.
If you mean OP’s title is sensational, it’s not. But if you mean OOP’s translation is, then perhaps. “Anti war protestor” elicits a clearer image and more emotions than “someone who identifies with Gaza” because it takes more effort to understand the implication
because it takes more effort to understand the implication
I like how out of all the comments CTDummy replied to, they ignored this one, and then argued with all the others how understanding implications has to be misinformation ackshaully
I haven’t replied to most comment that have just been shitpost or disingenuous. Because my reply would have been the same as elsewhere. “If you don’t like it/identify as anti-war let me know and we can put you on a bus to Gaza” =/= rounding up anti-war demonstrators and bussing them to Gaza. Not saying he isn’t implying a threat, that it was ok to say or imply or anything else that people have asserted. My criticism is nearly entirely pointed at the media outlet, which I think most people here missed. Also asking for clarification on what the officer said since some of the subtitles are blurred and replaced.
Saying you’ll send people who disagree with your actions to the place you’re actively bombing nonstop and have vowed to turn into dust seems pretty fashy to me we’re well beyond the point of giving isntreal the benefit of the doubt
I can’t say I disagree with that initial statement. My point remains that the video subtitles, provided by the media outlet, don’t match the title. This guy is supposedly saying there are no protest (permits?) going to be authorised during the conflict. His reasoning is the police can’t deal with large gatherings/protest during the conflict and that they aren’t being lenient about it. Then he says the quote I mentioned in my previous comment. Seems far removed to me from literally forcibly bussing anti-war protesters to a war zone.
Whatever, this shit is cult like. I ask about whether this is literal misinformation being posted and everyone in here is making it about fascists or implying I support them (or whatever this officer in the video is saying or implying). Apparently I just love cops because I ask questions lmao. That and the image spam instead of addressing the fact that the subtitles a media organisation edited in clearly don’t even match a title they formulated based on said subtitles. Fascism is borderline beside the point but yeah, you cool guys keep it up. Lotta super cool things going on in here.
except it’s not. “identify as gazan” means effectively being an anti war protester in this context. They simply expressed the underlying meaning of his implication instead of translating his words literally. It would be like if a mob boss said in a different language “nice place, be a shame if something happened to it.” and I translated that into another language as “I am threatening you.”
Oh fuck off, my comments aren’t concern trolling and you know it. No amount of shitty pig balls will make it so. Nor will they make misinformation and willingly ignoring it cool.
You may want to look up the definition of concern trolling. I think from the first comment it is pretty clear that I’m not pretending to be from HB or pretending to have the exact same political alignment as hb. Especially since I don’t have the pronouns(flair?) listed beside my username.
Yeah I agree the “paraphrasing” that some media outlets do is pretty stupid if they don’t mention that it isn’t an actual direct quote. I think it is good that they try to boil down a politician’s statement to what their intention is, like making it clear that this guy is essentially threatening to kill people who aren’t warmongers, but they should have that be alongside the original quote as an explainer, not pretend he directly said that. I feel like I see this a lot these days especially on Twitter. I would rather just see the actual video clips of them speaking with an explanation.
And yeah, people on Hexbear are getting a bit antsy I think.
I appreciate the actual reply, ta. It is a particularly gross thing to say or even imply given the current loss of life. I feel like current leadership in Israel government has emboldened that sort of behaviour/rhetoric. Certainly a shitty take from a government official given they know the conditions in Gaza even prior to this current conflict. Exactly what it reminded me of, given it and Facebook I think are facing fines and legal action for not tackling similar issues.
Ty yeah igi. It’s weird though since I saw this post very soon after it went up, and it had four upvotes almost straight out of the blocks. I assumed that since people browsing local may see it before those browsing all from other instances, that either something suss was going on or HB users weren’t reading the post properly.
Watching the video that MEMO posted (Qatari backed, pro Hamas outlet) that person seems to say something different (according the supplied subtitles as other subtitles are blurred for some reason). He says “anyone who identifies as Israeli welcome, anyone who wants to identify with Gaza I’m happy to put them on a bus to Gaza”. Am I wrong because even for sensationalism this title seems excessive.
That’s even worse lol. They’re actively bombing and starving everyone in Gaza. ‘If you identify with Gaza, I will happily help you get killed by us’ is the message. If anything the editorializing tamed down the rhetoric.
If you mean OP’s title is sensational, it’s not. But if you mean OOP’s translation is, then perhaps. “Anti war protestor” elicits a clearer image and more emotions than “someone who identifies with Gaza” because it takes more effort to understand the implication
I like how out of all the comments CTDummy replied to, they ignored this one, and then argued with all the others how understanding implications has to be misinformation ackshaully
I haven’t replied to most comment that have just been shitpost or disingenuous. Because my reply would have been the same as elsewhere. “If you don’t like it/identify as anti-war let me know and we can put you on a bus to Gaza” =/= rounding up anti-war demonstrators and bussing them to Gaza. Not saying he isn’t implying a threat, that it was ok to say or imply or anything else that people have asserted. My criticism is nearly entirely pointed at the media outlet, which I think most people here missed. Also asking for clarification on what the officer said since some of the subtitles are blurred and replaced.
Saying you’ll send people who disagree with your actions to the place you’re actively bombing nonstop and have vowed to turn into dust seems pretty fashy to me
we’re well beyond the point of giving isntreal the benefit of the doubt
I can’t say I disagree with that initial statement. My point remains that the video subtitles, provided by the media outlet, don’t match the title. This guy is supposedly saying there are no protest (permits?) going to be authorised during the conflict. His reasoning is the police can’t deal with large gatherings/protest during the conflict and that they aren’t being lenient about it. Then he says the quote I mentioned in my previous comment. Seems far removed to me from literally forcibly bussing anti-war protesters to a war zone.
here’s a picture of a pig with shit on its balls
Whatever, this shit is cult like. I ask about whether this is literal misinformation being posted and everyone in here is making it about fascists or implying I support them (or whatever this officer in the video is saying or implying). Apparently I just love cops because I ask questions lmao. That and the image spam instead of addressing the fact that the subtitles a media organisation edited in clearly don’t even match a title they formulated based on said subtitles. Fascism is borderline beside the point but yeah, you cool guys keep it up. Lotta super cool things going on in here.
except it’s not. “identify as gazan” means effectively being an anti war protester in this context. They simply expressed the underlying meaning of his implication instead of translating his words literally. It would be like if a mob boss said in a different language “nice place, be a shame if something happened to it.” and I translated that into another language as “I am threatening you.”
Type harder, you’ve almost convinced me
Old mate offered 8 shitty pig balls so they got the long reply, I know my value thanks.
Why are you misgendering people our pronouns are literally in our usernames
Ah shit that is my bad, I thought they had masc pronouns listed when I typed this.
I see their 8 PPB and raise them
spoiler
As much as it was frustrating initially before I got a genuine reply I’d be lying if I said I didn’t find the spb reply/images pretty fucking funny.
“Just asking questions”
Oh fuck off, my comments aren’t concern trolling and you know it. No amount of shitty pig balls will make it so. Nor will they make misinformation and willingly ignoring it cool.
this you?
I’m going to keep this one around like a bug in a terrarium we can observe and occasionally poke at.
You may want to look up the definition of concern trolling. I think from the first comment it is pretty clear that I’m not pretending to be from HB or pretending to have the exact same political alignment as hb. Especially since I don’t have the pronouns(flair?) listed beside my username.
Yeah I agree the “paraphrasing” that some media outlets do is pretty stupid if they don’t mention that it isn’t an actual direct quote. I think it is good that they try to boil down a politician’s statement to what their intention is, like making it clear that this guy is essentially threatening to kill people who aren’t warmongers, but they should have that be alongside the original quote as an explainer, not pretend he directly said that. I feel like I see this a lot these days especially on Twitter. I would rather just see the actual video clips of them speaking with an explanation.
And yeah, people on Hexbear are getting a bit antsy I think.
I appreciate the actual reply, ta. It is a particularly gross thing to say or even imply given the current loss of life. I feel like current leadership in Israel government has emboldened that sort of behaviour/rhetoric. Certainly a shitty take from a government official given they know the conditions in Gaza even prior to this current conflict. Exactly what it reminded me of, given it and Facebook I think are facing fines and legal action for not tackling similar issues.
you mean the place they’ve cut off supplies to and have been bombing relentlessly?
ACAB includes this fuckhead ctdummy. Who is upbearing this shit.
We display upvotes from other instances, just not downvotes
Ty yeah igi. It’s weird though since I saw this post very soon after it went up, and it had four upvotes almost straight out of the blocks. I assumed that since people browsing local may see it before those browsing all from other instances, that either something suss was going on or HB users weren’t reading the post properly.
Interesting question, but it could just be from people on .ml or whatever browsing by new