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    This begs the question, could any of the great Trek engineers destroy the one ring without Mt Doom?

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      O’Brien could just beam it to Mt. Doom directly. Wouldn’t make much of a fun story though.

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        There appears to be some sort of primitive shielding.

        Compensating.

        Ok, ready to be the ring down, sir.

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        Though Mordor is where the greatest concentration of Melkor itself is in all Arda, so it could not be (easily) possible. Though God himself punched Arda so hard it went from a plane to a sphere almost solely because Sauron went to Númenor, so He might pull some strings to let it pass.

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          Though God himself punched Arda so hard it went from a plane to a sphere almost solely because Sauron went to Númenor

          I don’t know what any of these nouns mean, but that sounds so much cooler than any real life mythology

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            There is a god of the Tolkien universe. His name is Eru Ilúvatar.

            Arda is the planet that Middle Earth is on (with Middle Earth being a continent)

            Sauron is the main enemy in the LOTR trilogy

            Númenor was an island that the Valar (sub-dieties under Eru) created for men that helped in the fight against Melkor (also known as Morgoth), a Valar that turned evil and who was the boss of Sauron for a long time.

            The inhabitants of the island were blessed with long life, good health, etc, and their culture was very elven-inspired. Much of the upper class was part elven, even.

            Sauron tricked many of the Numenoreans to join his cause and take a fight to the other Valar, saying it’d give them immortality. Eru got angry, destroyed the island and reshaped Arda from flat to a sphere.

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    Just once is like to see a Warhammer 40k style broadsider (with Star Trek tech) show up in Star Trek and watch everybody poopy their pants as it started unloading endless torpedo salvos.

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      Give it WH40K tech. It would basically be invulnerable. Not sure that it would be able to hit the Trek ships with the torpedos though. They would outmatch it in maneuverability, but those battleships are made to withstand weapons that are many magnitudes larger than anything the Federation has available. They routinely destroy worlds, but battleships have been known to survive for generations totally disabled and exposed to the vaccume of space. They can destroy planets, but even WH40K doesn’t have an effective way to destroy those battleships, without physically running them into a planet or a star.

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        Don’t sell short the levels of destructive capability Federation has access to if it really cared about such things. Off the top of my head, there are some messed up “off-label” uses for stuff we’ve seen the Federation has access to by the 2380s:

        • Red Matter is featured in Star Trek '09, though it originates from the prime timeline. Obvious application for making black holes on demand. Y’know, I’m not actually sure why the Vulcan Science Academy made so much of it, but we see even in small amounts it can be used as a planet killing weapon.
        • The Protostar Class from Prodigy is potentially the Federation’s most terrifying weapon. The contained protostar at the heart of the ship explodes (canonically, though unrealistically) into a supernova if containment fails, and with full holo-emitter coverage it could be run by a holographic crew. Lock down the ETH’s personality matrix and you’ve got a fully automated transwarp supernova bomb.
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          Sure they can annihilate planets, the WH40K battleships have plenty of planet killing weapons. The eldari shoot literal black holes, and these battleships shrug them off like they are nothing. It’s easier to just shoot a vortex torpedo at one of these things and force it into the warp, than actually destroying one. I don’t think the Federation, Romulans, Dominion, or even Species 8472 has galaxy killing weapons, and that seems to be the level of destruction needed to take down one of the absolute fortresses that are the emperor class battleships

          That supernova bomb may cripple the ship, but I don’t think it would destroy it. These things have photon torpedo explosions going off under regular operations, somewhat frequently. Sure a few hundred of the crew die, but it doesn’t even affect the normal operations of the ship.