• FuckyWucky [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    11 months ago

    sure, make comparisons between Nazi Germany, Apartheid Israel and … Russia

    Are Ukrainians being crammed into a strip being bombed constantly without food or water? Russia despite being reactionary in many ways (eg LGBTQ rights) is relatively tolerant towards religious and ethnic minorities.

    Such malicious comparison. Fuck you.

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      Oh fuck off. Russia is committing cultural genocide and is constantly bombing civilian targets. Russia thinks nothing of bombing hospitals or other civilian infrastructure. The only reason the Ukrainians are not also being crammed into a strip is because Russia’s military hasn’t been capable of doing that.

      Edit: clarity

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        11 months ago

        Yes, they can play dirty, but so does everyone else, so no surprise there.

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          11 months ago

          If by ‘playing dirty’ you mean ‘committing heinous war crimes’, no that’s not an everyone thing. Sure, the US is also very guilty of it, and needs to be judged accordingly, but that isn’t justification for Russia doing the same and more to Ukraine.

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            11 months ago

            I bet you’re not as “loud” when US war crimes are in question…

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              I literally just called out the US for its war crimes and said they should be judged for it…

              And I don’t recall even the US going as far as to kidnap thousands of children to strip them of their identities.

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                11 months ago

                Yeah, you did… but that is not why we’re here, are we.

                My point is, US liberals like to say “oh yeah, the US is also bad, but take a look at what that guy is doing”… if the US minded their own business from time to time, I’m confident the world would be a much better place to live in.

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                  11 months ago

                  Sure. I’m also confident that if Russia did the same, it would also be a better place to live in too.

                  I don’t deny the US does some incredibly messed up shit, hell I don’t deny that the US needs to be tried for war crimes, but that’s not justification for another country to do the same to a third country.

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                    11 months ago

                    Actually, it is. If everyone respected the rules set by the UN, there would probably be no war crimes at all. But one side breaks them, then the other… it’s a slipery slope after that.

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          So, when did Ukrainian military bomb Russian civilian infrastructure? I’d like to learn more about that, so that I have something to ask my own government about

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            11 months ago

            Oh please, the US have done that as well, numerious times, then try to cover that shit up. That’s nothing new.

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      11 months ago

      Actually, yes, Ukrainians that happened to live in the east of Ukraine are in fact stuck in a literal war zone without feasible way to live… unless they accept Russian “citizenship”, that is

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        11 months ago

        they can get to Europe because they are white enough. Its not an open air prison in the same way Gaza is.

        Russian bombing campaign is nothing like Gaza. Gazans can’t obtain Israeli citizenship, Palestinian passports aren’t widely recognized. Meanwhile both Ukrainian and Russian passports are internationally recognized.

        unless they accept Russian “citizenship”, that is

        A citizenship is a citizenship. No need for quotes, Russian citizens can get Russian passports, get access to Russian benefits and travel.

        Stop making silly comparisons.

        The only people who can be compared to the situation Palestinians are in right now are Rohingya Muslims.

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          No shit, nothing is the same way Gaza is. Doesn’t make it a non-issue. And “citizenship” deserves quotes if it’s enforced by an invading military.

          Also, good luck getting to anywhere, when all airports and major roads leading out of the occupied territory are blocked and/or destroyed.