• rockerface
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    7 months ago

    I wish there was at least half the amount of this kind of memes about Russia

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        7 months ago

        That’s fair. Wasn’t trying to take a jab at you in particular, if it came off that way, I’m sorry

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      7 months ago

      If you think the Western public is more anti-Isreal than rabidly anti-Russia, I don’t know what to tell you.

      Disclaimer: I think they’re both fucking awful. Isreal is objectively worse though.

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        7 months ago

        Not the public, just this community. Although it could be confirmation bias on my side

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      Yeah but that would go against the hexbear narrative of “neo-USSR good because communism, anything western-adjacent is imperialism bad”

      Nuance, or frankly any political intelligence, is not their strong suit

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        No one on hexbear likes Russia in its current state. No one thinks it is a “neo-USSR” (lmao). Russia is not Communist and no self respecting communist would call it that. The West is imperialist and bad, the most obvious example of this being the entire global south.

        Have you ever been on hexbear?

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          No one on hexbear likes Russia in its current state.

          Meanwhile in this thread by hexbear users: “nothing Russia is doing is that bad, they should just become citizens, stop hating on russia”

          For “not liking” Russia imperialism, they sure spend a lot of fucking time apologizing for Russia’s imperialism. We can hate multiple despotic shitholes at the same time, they are not mutually exclusive.

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        I mean the fact that you think the people of hexbear support the Russian Federation thinking its communist but then go on to say they have no nuance or political intelligence is kind of funny

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      sure, make comparisons between Nazi Germany, Apartheid Israel and … Russia

      Are Ukrainians being crammed into a strip being bombed constantly without food or water? Russia despite being reactionary in many ways (eg LGBTQ rights) is relatively tolerant towards religious and ethnic minorities.

      Such malicious comparison. Fuck you.

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        Oh fuck off. Russia is committing cultural genocide and is constantly bombing civilian targets. Russia thinks nothing of bombing hospitals or other civilian infrastructure. The only reason the Ukrainians are not also being crammed into a strip is because Russia’s military hasn’t been capable of doing that.

        Edit: clarity

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          Yes, they can play dirty, but so does everyone else, so no surprise there.

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            If by ‘playing dirty’ you mean ‘committing heinous war crimes’, no that’s not an everyone thing. Sure, the US is also very guilty of it, and needs to be judged accordingly, but that isn’t justification for Russia doing the same and more to Ukraine.

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              7 months ago

              I bet you’re not as “loud” when US war crimes are in question…

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                I literally just called out the US for its war crimes and said they should be judged for it…

                And I don’t recall even the US going as far as to kidnap thousands of children to strip them of their identities.

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                  Yeah, you did… but that is not why we’re here, are we.

                  My point is, US liberals like to say “oh yeah, the US is also bad, but take a look at what that guy is doing”… if the US minded their own business from time to time, I’m confident the world would be a much better place to live in.

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            So, when did Ukrainian military bomb Russian civilian infrastructure? I’d like to learn more about that, so that I have something to ask my own government about

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              Oh please, the US have done that as well, numerious times, then try to cover that shit up. That’s nothing new.

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                Was I asking about the US? Or did Ukraine become another state, while I was asleep?

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        Actually, yes, Ukrainians that happened to live in the east of Ukraine are in fact stuck in a literal war zone without feasible way to live… unless they accept Russian “citizenship”, that is

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          they can get to Europe because they are white enough. Its not an open air prison in the same way Gaza is.

          Russian bombing campaign is nothing like Gaza. Gazans can’t obtain Israeli citizenship, Palestinian passports aren’t widely recognized. Meanwhile both Ukrainian and Russian passports are internationally recognized.

          unless they accept Russian “citizenship”, that is

          A citizenship is a citizenship. No need for quotes, Russian citizens can get Russian passports, get access to Russian benefits and travel.

          Stop making silly comparisons.

          The only people who can be compared to the situation Palestinians are in right now are Rohingya Muslims.

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            No shit, nothing is the same way Gaza is. Doesn’t make it a non-issue. And “citizenship” deserves quotes if it’s enforced by an invading military.

            Also, good luck getting to anywhere, when all airports and major roads leading out of the occupied territory are blocked and/or destroyed.

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        While England is definitely the worst offender, it really is more just western Europe

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          While it’s true all of Western Europe is guilty, there’s a reason why people point to Britain first and foremost. Its empire was pretty much the codifier of what people think of when the word “superpower” is used. There wasn’t such an uncontested concentration of power in a single polity that could be projected globally until the UK came out on top from the Napoleonic Wars then went on to subjugate Asia and Africa by the mid-late 19th Century, essentially becoming master of the world market and trade networks (at least until the onset of WWI). Not even the Spanish and Portuguese Empires held such a monopoly. Even after the start of Britain’s terminal decline into becoming America’s lapdog in the cold war, it still influenced world politics in ways that still affect us today (relevantly, it was originally Israel’s patron power before the US supplanted them sometime in the 70s/80s).

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    7 months ago

    Leaving everything else aside, South Africa went from having one of the worst flags in the world to having one of the best.