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Right before the whole country wakes up and laughs at the notion, let me just get this out of the way… Nobody here gives a fuck what Bannon and his ilk want.
The recent riots started with the stabbing of children followed by some mentalers riling up a tiny number of agitators. At the scene folks were understandably very upset but it was a Brazilian who stopped the attack (bless his soul) and a heap of money has been raised for him.
What then happened was a bunch of scumbags jumping on the bandwagon so they could rob new Nikes from Foot Locker and cause a bit of mayhem. That’s it.
The political spectrum here really runs from left to centre right (and by that I mean around the democrats in the US). There is no right spectrum party.
So… Anyone calling for civil war here can fuck right off tbh. Absolute nonsense of the highest order.
It kind of pisses me off that the article doesn’t mention the Brazilian person.
Yeah what an absolute champ he was. Fast and decisive.
I’m pretty sure Ireland still remembers what a civil war is like, and nobody who knows wants one. Bannon and the American right wouldn’t know Troubles if they came up and bit them in the face.
Succinct and entirely correct. All Irish “conservatives” want is farm subsidies and no inheritance tax
Some people in Ireland obviously do. Thankfully, it appears to be a tiny minority.
The problem is really the same as the right wing loonies in other countries: they are using modern media, perhaps with the assistance of foreign agents, to amplify what they are saying and make the movement seem larger than it really is.
Then loonies get a lot of disgruntled people to sign on to single parts of their agenda. When you’re struggling to get by, it’s a lot easier to support someone who claims to have easy answers, even if those answers are designed to never be achieved. These loonies will always have out-groups they want to ostracized, and some people may go along, not realizing that they may be next. (And not realizing that the total Nazi-lite agenda doesn’t include the plebs at all, other than to get them to vote against their interests.)
The political spectrum here really runs from left to centre right
Wasn’t abortion completely illegal until like yesterday?
2018 sourceish.
I wouldn’t call “5 years” ago yesterday, and efforts to ammend the constitution were happening since 1992. But you do you.
Okay, Ireland will do a civil war if America’s far right can find it on a map without Googling.
It’s, like off the coast of Perth, right?
(/s)
It’s outside of Cleveland right?
Cleaveland, Ontario? sure!
Dude I think they can find Canada just fine so shouldn’t be hard to find the island off the coast of Canada…was it the left or right side?
To be fair, it is an island off the right side of Canada…. by a couple thousand miles.
To the left. You can see it and Russia at the same time.
Oh, so it’s right outside Sarah Palin’s house!
Hint: look for the green part
I was going to type this as a joke, but on reflection I think it’s 100% unironically true:
The only reason they care is because Ireland’s right-wing hooligans are actually willing to physically mob up and attack immigrants and police, whereas a lot of the right wing in the US is too skeered to get into the streets and do the same un-stochastically ever since Ashli Babbit. They wish their followers here would do the same and can’t wait for it to start to happen.
Most of the American right is afraid to travel to any large city without a gun.
That would be a big problem if they travelled.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branson,_Missouri
The redneck version of Las Vegas. Lots of G-rated entertainment with shows that don’t run past 9 pm.
Pops can’t leave loaded gun to go to his bathroom.
I love chatting with 2As online. They all swear that they are responsible gun owners who keep their weapons locked up, and go to the range to keep up their skills. They also hate the idea that insane people might be denied guns for any reason.
That’s what makes me sad. I know people in the north that have intense weapons closets for maintaining humidity and security. Meanwhile relatives in the south have loaded guns in the closet next to the umbrella and waving them around the house. So irresponsible.
Ireland should do a civil war against America for whatever the hell was going on in that weird parade scene in the Fugitive where they’re all dressed as leprechauns.
Make the Chicago River run red? A very Charlemagnian solution.
Tucker Carlson, who now broadcasts his show on X, told his millions of followers that “the Irish government is trying to replace the population of Ireland with people from the third world.”
Former White House adviser and 2020 election conspiracist Steve Bannon, who is currently strategizing for former US president Donald Trump, responded to Carlson by declaring: “Ireland is a powder keg.”
Elon Musk, who this week told X advertisers to “go fuck yourself,” also weighed in, claiming on X that the Irish prime minister “hates the Irish people,” and agreeing with another far-right influencer who posted on X saying Ireland needed McGregor to run for office. “Not a bad idea,” Musk wrote in reply.
Isn’t Ireland, by definition, a third world country?
What do you think the definition of third world is?
Initially it was anyone not NATO or Warsaw pact. That would make them third world.
Not US aligned or USSR aligned during the cold war
Let’s not pretend that Ireland hasn’t been US aligned since forever. Sure we’re neighbours and the US has a huge Irish diaspora. Hell we even used taxpayer money to refuel USAF jets on their way to the gulf wars despite being “neutral”.
I never met a single person here during the cold war that thought the USSR was anything other than an authoritarian hole that might wipe us off the map because we are next to the UK.
I always felt that Ireland remained “unaligned” all that time not because they really had no preference between the US or USSR, but because they could, under no circumstances, be seen as being aligned with the British.
Ha! Those days are behind us thankfully and we’re very friendly with the UK these days, even going as far as to renounce our constitutional claim on northern Ireland.
It was a large part of the thinking when the state was formed and neutrality was decided on if I remember my history correctly.
We have sent supplies to Ukraine and trained their sappers though. I mean you can’t really not pick a side on this one.
I would call us semi neutral, but way less than the likes of Switzerland.
Oh yes, I understand, I’m an American of Irish descent who prefers Guinnness unironically. Things are so much different now than they were back then, and that’s a good thing.
I went to Ireland in the 90s and had a wonderful time, but never did go to the North. I hope to go back at some point and see Belfast, no matter whose flag is flying. How much of a twist would it be if Ireland reunited not after more violence, but for economic reasons after a poorly executed Brexit?
A nation neutral to the USvsSoviet posturing in the Cold War
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What in hell do they hope to gain from stoking these fires?!
They want Irish conservatives to show U.S. conservatives that it’s possible to rise up and kill the normal people and get away with it.
That was in the very darkest corner of my mind, but I didn’t let it out. Jesus. I never thought America would come to this.
They’ve based their internal subconscious model of self worth on being anti-left. They’re just reactionary regressives.
They’re shit stirrers. That’s it.
Practice.
Bunch a cunts.
Since Ireland still hasn’t gotten Northern Ireland back, they’re basically still in a civil war.
That’s a weird way to frame things given that a sizable majority of North Irelanders don’t want to reunify.
I don’t follow that particular but if politics very closely, so I’m genuinely asking: is that still the case post-Brexit?
Damn. I never thought of that! Now I wonder too.
Two graphics on this topic from: https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2022/12/03/poll-shows-northern-ireland-rejects-unity-by-large-margin/
So, if I’m reading this correctly, the OP is correct in their clain that most NI people do not want to unify
Yes, they’re factual correct in saying that (assuming proper sampling). Also I feel like the international audience who might not be versed in Irish history should appreciate that there’s a polarized background to the issue given the colonial history.
I get where you’re coming from, but to say that its akin to a civil war when there’s a unilateral mechanism for unification and there’s been lasting peace for decades… Feels a little reductionist.
Ireland - “You first”
Can…can they even find Ireland on the map?
Also America’s far left are supporting known terrorists in the Middle East
