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    The art on the album cover is a painting called Landscape With Graves by Caspar David Friedrich, a famous German painter who was beloved by Nazis.

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Caspar_David_Friedrich_-_Landscape_with_Graves,_c._1835-1837_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg

    You’ve probably seen this painting before by the same guy. I’ve seen a lot of twitter Nazis using this painting.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderer_above_the_Sea_of_Fog#/media/File:Caspar_David_Friedrich_-_Wanderer_above_the_Sea_of_Fog.jpeg

    The alternative album cover that he released was a Reichsadler, double-headed eagle crest.

    Kanye held a concert on December 11 in Miami. He performed on stage in black-colored Klansman robe. There was at least a few right-wing grifters (Adin Ross, Sneako, etc) in the crowd.

    He’s announced that his new album is being released on this Friday. The pre-order is already on iTunes. I’m not sure if it actually will be release on Friday, he has a tendency to delay releases.

    From what I have observed, Kanye is still being antisemitic. Baked Alaska posted a photo of them together on December 10. It is very likely that the album will be antisemitic and contain far-right messaging.

    I’m worried that the album will be received positively by the hip hop community. If Kanye becomes popular again, it could normalize his cryptic love for Hitler.

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      god damnit learning that fuckin mountaineering painting guy is beloved by nazis

      edit: although he died a century before the nazis were even around so it seems okay to like him

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      If Kanye becomes popular again, it could normalize his cryptic love for Hitler.

      this would track with the current efforts in the West to rehabilitate the Nazis in culture.

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      Mike Dean doesn’t work with Kanye anymore, first time he’s been without Mike Dean since Late Registration. And he had Jon Brion on Late Registration so he had someone to reign him in. This will be Kanye’s second album he’s the main producer for. The first album he’s done this with since College Dropout. There is no universe where this album is actually any semblance of good. Jesus is King was solely held together by Mike Dean.

      If you want more modern Kanye music, listen to the newest FKA twigs album. Some of the synth melodies feel like they were taken straight from 808s and Heartbreaks, others have a cool Donda esque sound to them.

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      Wanderer above the sea of fog is such a famous painting it’s typically used as a literal textbook example of the romanticist movement. As in it is in children’s textbooks. It’s as much of a fascist dogwhistle as Michelangelos David is. Kanye is a fascist independent of this

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          The accusation here is that the painting is one made by the same artist as one popular with nazis (Wanderer above the sea of fog). But that painting is just fucking popular. It’s like THE painting for when you need to show Romantic art. The actual context is what I’m pointing out and why the point is silly.

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      You’ve probably seen this painting before by the same guy. I’ve seen a lot of twitter Nazis using this painting.

      I’ve seen a lot of everybody use that painting. It’s a hallmark painting of German Romanticism, not a Nazi dog-whistle.

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        I described something that was my own personal experience. I did not say that every person who references the artist is white supremacist. Kanye went on Alex Jones and said that he likes Hitler on the show. If you’re still defending Kanye at this point, then you need help.

        The dude said “I’m going death con 3 On JEWISH PEOPLE.” Kanye went on Tucker Carlson and was so antisemitic that Tucker Carlson edited the interview to make Kanye seem less antisemitic. Kanye went on Alex Jones’s show after the Tucker Carlson interview because he believed that Tucker censored him.

        The guy who says “I like Hitler”, creates an album cover by with a painting by German Artist who is known for promoting German Nationalism during his life and whose artwork was used by Nazis to promote Blood and Soil after his death. It must be a coincidence. The guy who likes Hitler is using imagery previously used to promote German Nationalism. What a coincidence.

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          it’s absolutely wild that kanye can do MAGA hats and WLM w/ candace and misquote War Games and ya’ll will be like, dude, he’s really stepped in it this time, the mock up for his new project uses the same font as a burzum album, it uses art from a German romantic painter.

          like, there’s no secret. there’s nothing to decode, no sleuthing that needs to be done. no self-congratulations are needed, his grand provocations have already commenced.

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            My post is meant to provide evidence that Kanye has not changed his political views. This may be obvious to you but there are a lot of people currently on reddit and twitter who are saying that Kanye is not antisemitic and trying to rehabilitate his image. It may be obvious to you, then my post is not for you. Not everything is for you.

            I also said that Kanye was spotted on December 10 spending time with Baked Alaska, a known white supremacist who livestreamed at the January 6 insurrection. Also today, Sneako, a far-right internet video creator, who was banned from youtube for threatening to sexually assault a woman, released a video saying that he is now employed by Kanye. Sneako has been employed by Kanye in the past as well.

            For the record. I also criticized Kanye on Hexbear when he was doing White Lives Matters things and meeting with Candace Owens.

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              again, kanye’s bad behavior and noxious provocations say everything needed. we don’t dan brown, charlie day conspiracy theories about font choices or famous painters to conclude that kanye is “bad.”

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                You are arguing in bad faith. You have other posts in the thread saying that you want to continue listening to Kanye and you don’t care that he’s a Nazi. You’re just saying this to because you don’t want people to think he’s a Nazi so you can keep listening to him.

                The final cover art was revealed on December 12, 2023, by Ty Dolla Sign in an Instagram post.[33] Writing for HipHopDX, Sam Moore described the cover as being “linked to Nazism”, noting Friedrich’s status as a favorite artist of Adolf Hitler; Moore further observed that the cover’s typography was reminiscent of that used by Burzum, a black metal band founded by the neo-Nazi Varg Vikernes.[29] The Burzum comparison and Hitler’s adoration of Friedrich was also reported on by The Guardian and The Independent.[30][34]

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vultures_(Kanye_West_and_Ty_Dolla_Sign_album)#Cover_art

                It’s not something that I made up or inferred myself. It was reported by multiple news outlets. Sometimes the curtains are not just blue.

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        those motherfuckers will grow long hair, dress extremely gender neutral, and put on a full face of makeup and then go online to cry about “traditional western gender roles!!!”. like come on.

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    michael-laugh

    He’s awful but every time Varg comes up here it tickles me because it takes me back to high school where I was first regaled with tales of his misadventures by metalhead friends

    Also, this might just be a Northern Europe thing but I feel like I regularly see people in Burzum t-shirts

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      my favorite varg story is when he earnestly posted on twitter that fascists should start posting pictures of the dicks (“but not in a gay way!!!”) so they could see if people were circumsized or not

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      Varg is hilarious because of the juxtaposition of him being a nazi and convicted murderer, while on the other hand he’s a huge terminally-online dork who LARPS as a medieval peasant and creates shitty TTRPGs.

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        Laughing at Varg’s antics is an evergreen source of comedy material. It’s kinda like watching an animal growl at its reflection in the mirror.

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      Guy at work is from two Caribbean parents who settled in the 80s. Have seen him wearing the shirt. Very weird. Always wondered if he does for the shits and giggles of winding up the racists? I dont really know him so feel really selfconscious about asking.

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        He may also genuinely be a Burzum fan? I would feel icky listening to it, having read way too much about Varg’s garbage opinions, but I do know that musically it is extremely highly regarded.

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      Also, this might just be a Northern Europe thing but I feel like I regularly see people in Burzum t-shirts

      Swedes?

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      I don’t know how true this is, but the lore I heard is that Varg quit black metal because his nazi brainworms brainworms caused him to finally admit to himself it wasn’t an Aryan enough genre and he was just appropriating POC music, because black metal ultimately has its roots in the blues, which he internalized as making him not segregated enough. So your comment checks out lol