Edit, since folks don’t seem to get the joke: Obama’s campaign slogan was “Hope”

  • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
    16·
    4 months ago

    Wait, wasn’t Obama’s campaign slogan “Yes we can!”

    Bill Clinton’s was Hope, because his hometown was Hope, Arkansas.

  • lennybird@lemmy.worldEnglish
    112·
    4 months ago

    To be honest I think Pelosi had the biggest influence. She related to Biden on a personal level, knew him the longest, always treated him with respect, and voluntarily stepped down from her role as speaker, herself. Being older carries some clout, too.

  • pjwestin@lemmy.world
    73·
    4 months ago

    Obama crushed my generation’s hopes. We voted for him to end our foreign wars, crack down on Wall Street, and finally give us universal healthcare. Instead, we got the Heritage Foundation’s healthcare policy and…mass surveillance, for some reason. He may have inspired hope in 2008 but he had beaten it out of us by 2014.

    • Korne127@lemmy.world
      1·
      4 months ago

      I don’t really get the mass surveillance point. The worldwide NSA espionage started under Bush, didn’t it?

      • pjwestin@lemmy.world
        1·
        4 months ago

        It’s a bit more nebulous than that. The Snowden leaks covered a collection or different programs between the NSA and GCHQ which took place over several years. Some of them began under Bush, some of them began under Obama, some of them were expanded under Obama, some of them Obama lied about shutting down…However, there was a huge expansion of American meta data being collected under Obama, even though candidate Obama had condemned Bush’s warrentless wire tapping program.

  • volvoxvsmarla
    51·
    4 months ago

    Genuine question (not from the USA), why was “hope” the campaign slogan?

        • mkwt@lemmy.world
          4·
          4 months ago

          “Dubya” is a nickname for George W. Bush that was coined by newspaper columnist Molly Ivins. The name is a Texafied pronunciation of the letter W.

          Dubya was the President from 2001 to 2009, in the two terms preceding Obama. Rumsfeld was Dubya’s defense secretary, and Cheney was the vice president.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      51·
      4 months ago

      I’m sure they did, considering the uprising during the Arab Spring against Assad’s murderous regime. But I never took you as an advocate for US interventionism!

      • pjwestin@lemmy.world
        21·
        4 months ago

        I’m not sure a democratic uprising Obama didn’t support and a civil war that has lasted 12 years and counting are great examples of Obama inspiring hope.

      • umbrella@lemmy.ml
        22·
        4 months ago

        i’m surely not such an advocate. i’m sure whatever you said justifies all that senseless death.

  • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
    75·
    4 months ago

    Yeah, like now everyone who wanted this has to donate their max.

    Even if it’s just to send a message to the donor class that biffing Biden was the right move. $2 or $27.

    If you wanted Biden off the ticket, got what you wished for, pony up.

    I’ll send mine in just for the unity message.

    E: if you need the link to donate just check your text spam folders.

    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
      142·
      4 months ago

      Obama had the lowest number of civilian deaths since President Carter and was far lower than Trump that followed him. Republicans had to invent a new metric to find something bad to say about Obama. Since he wasn’t killing thousands of people like Bush, they invented the metric of drone strikes to make him seem worse than Bush.

      • njm1314@lemmy.world
        5·
        4 months ago

        Funny you say that because it’s his administration that redefined what combatant is to include any young man or boy as an enemy combatant. That way he could claim he wasn’t killing civilians he was killing enemy comments.