the vibes have rotten to the core and now withholding for Palestine makes you the much-maligned single issue voter, as if genocide is just a tally on a fucking pro/con balance sheet. People who saw the mass movement and protests on the ground over the past nine months suddenly concern-trolling about no one ever organizing anything and just being nihilists doing nothing while they are doing, in contrast, ‘the bare minimum’. Breaking out reformist thought-terminating cliches and yelling at people with families in Palestine for not immediately being invested and engaged in the campaign of the VP of the current administration that is aiding and abetting the deaths of their loved ones. Total lanyard cultural victory. Americans by and large believe in nothing and have no principles, all they want is eternal 2014.

Hindenburg vs. Hitler then, Hindenburg vs. Hitler now, Hindenburg vs. Hitler forever doomjak

  • WhyEssEff [she/her]@hexbear.netOP
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    55
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 months ago

    kel-screm YOU HAVE TO BE A RATIONAL BENEVOLENT UTILITARIAN ABSOLUTE HARM-MINNING ACTOR AT ALL TIMES YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR 99% HITLER EVEN IF SHE PERSONALLY SENT THE DRONE THAT KILLED YOUR FAMILY EVEN IF YOU LIVE IN A HARD-LOCKED BLUE STATE YOU HAVE TO CO-SIGN IT YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO

    • Babs [she/her]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      39
      ·
      3 months ago

      My friends are really vocal about how we NEED to vote for her. We live in a deep deep blue state but they get upset when I say I’m not gonna.

        • yoink [she/her]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          3 months ago

          i mean, people like that don’t actually care or keep and eye on things like the popular vote and your effect on it

          they’ve chosen to support the dems, full knowing that the litany of issues with them, and now they NEED to make sure you’re willing to stoop to be in the in-group too because so long as I vote blue while you hold out, I’m going to feel like we’re not both part of the correct in-group and that’s scawy

      • sewer_rat_420 [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        19
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        Bro this happened to me a few weeks ago. My friend implied I (and my partner) am brainwashed by alt right propaganda or something because we suggested we won’t vote for Joe

    • WhyEssEff [she/her]@hexbear.netOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      35
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      reformists when you aren’t engaging in realpolitik every second of your waking hours in the name of harm-minimization NOOOOO

      • WhyEssEff [she/her]@hexbear.netOP
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        30
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        reformists using the one ring every single chance it could even possibly be useful that they get because invisibility is super helpful and expedites the trip to Mordor

  • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    50
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    the “single issue voter” accusation is easy to respond to, you just list all the awful shit Harris did in California and her clownshow of a 2020 primary campaign demonstrating her absolute lack of leadership and management qualifications. No single issues here, on every issue she is an evil nightmare

      • Hohsia [he/him]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        Lmao just like biden’s first presidential run agony-shivering

        Then every single bourgeois news outlet in the country decided to give him a boost when he was sinking in 2020 and whaddya know!

    • plinky [he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      26
      ·
      3 months ago

      just soviet-chad “yes i’m a single issue voter, go fuck yourself and argue with moms for liberty or whatever group dems target.”

      • ZWQbpkzl [none/use name]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        20
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        Single issue voting works. Its the only voter campaign strategists can really understand and fear. Next time just say “sorry sweaty but they’re just unelectable”.

  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    41
    ·
    3 months ago

    much-maligned single issue voter

    Who gives a fuck when the issue is genocide?

    You’re not voting for Hitler? But he’s so good with the trains!

  • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    37
    ·
    3 months ago

    At this point I’m growing to hate liberals more than I hate conservatives. Conservatives openly embrace their evil and don’t pretend to be anything else; Liberals pretend they’re good people and get very upset when you point out that the things they support (cough cough, genocide) are evil, whereas conservatives say “hell yeah we love murdering {insert racial slur}” and then nobody minds when you throw rocks at them.

    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      27
      ·
      3 months ago

      We’ve all read it but this MLK passage came to mind when I read your comment and vigorously agreed that I hate the American liberal’s politics more than the American conservative’s:

      I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.”

      • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        17
        ·
        3 months ago

        For real. I can’t even tell which side is more evil now. Maybe the nature and expression of their evil is slightly different, but it sums up to about the same magnitude of evil overall.

      • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        3 months ago

        Yeah I’m not sure if I agree with the “liberals are deceptive but conservatives aren’t” logic, they’re both entirely committed to lying blatantly and gaslighting massive portions of the population

    • rootsbreadandmakka [he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      3 months ago

      I tend to hate conservatives more than liberals, but most of the liberals I know are more the confused apolitical not fantastic politics but also not totally shitty people type. But then something like this happens and I’m exposed to the epic redditor or the back to brunch crowd and I remember just how absolutely insufferable liberals can be. Out of touch, pretentious, and so confidently wrong about everything. Can’t these people get like one win without just turning into the most insufferable people on the planet?

  • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    I think what infuriates me the most is how they’ve just done an about face and closed ranks around her.

    They were just about to feed Joe to the hyenas for being a senile monster, but I’m supposed to be cool with checks notes his vice president now? Just because she can speak intelligible english most of the time, and not look like my grandfather half a year before he completely succumbed to dementia?

    We went from 98% Hitler v 99% Hitler to 95% Hitler v 99% Hitler, and they’re just falling over each other to scramble back into the warm lake of urine that is the Democratic party.

    Nah.

  • rootsbreadandmakka [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    2020 all over again. The same people out in the streets that summer dipping their feet into actual radical politics closing ranks around Biden because mainstream media and a bunch of astroturfed tiktoks told them that he has the “most progressive platform of any US presidential candidate in history”, then he’ll (she’ll) be elected and the liberals will all tearfully exclaim “I feel like we’re finally a country again” and ignore anything that happens for the next 4 years until his (her) shittiness becomes unavoidable, then they’ll just find some other ghoul from the ghoul factory to close ranks around.

  • mar_k [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    3 months ago

    “not voting blue is a vote for red!” is literally the logic of a bratty child who says you’re supporting the other group’s team by refusing to join the game, except america’s game is sponsored by pools of human blood

    • AlpineSteakHouse [any]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      3 months ago

      “Okay I’ll vote for Trump then since they’re the exact same in your eyes.”

      Then they immediately back pedal and start hemming and hawing over definitions.

  • SoyViking [he/him]@hexbear.net
    cake
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    3 months ago

    The democrat party is doing what it’s best at: luring popular movements in and killing them by smothering them in vague nebulous promises, the fulfilment of which somehow forever lies in the future, never in the present and for whom nobody bears responsibility for past betrayal.