“but but but they voted for Drumpf!!!”

  • IHave69XiBucks@lemmygrad.ml
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    I havent seen that personally. But who knows the internets a crazy place. I do think there are some positives for this storm tho just not related to people dying. These storms that go from 0 to 100 hella fast have been happening but havent hit the US yet so this should bring attention to the phenomena which is something that needs to happen. We need to study it more. Plus id rather it hit the US than like Cuba or something. The US can economically handle it easier. Other than those few silver linings ya i mean its a hurricane it sucks. Hope all the working class and poor in florida got somewhere safe.

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    Literally the only silver lining I can find in this whole thing is that it could potentially destroy the home insurance industry to the point that Florida becomes completely unlivable. If nothing can be insured nobody can live there. That’s kinda the only good thing that could possibly happen out of this.

    Also all violence against settlers is self defense and I gotta say this specific event is 100% mother nature being violent in self defense.

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      Insurance as a private industry is so stupid. They extract profits to protect people from catastrophic losses, but then when something catastrophic happens, the government has to step in to save the industry. We’ve seen it with the risk pools that states have had to create to keep health insurers from pulling out of rural areas, with last resort programs for home insurance and flood insurance, the AIG bailout, and the built in bailouts of Obamacare.

      Why do they get to collect the profits if they don’t cover the risks?

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      Also all violence against settlers is self defense and I gotta say this specific event is 100% mother nature being violent in self defense.

      Gonna toss in my own spicy take: climate disaster is the genocide of the poor by the rich, and framing it in this manner absolves the perpetrators.

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      It is inevitable. As a Floridian our insurance industry is on pace to crash head on into a wall and nobody can stop it. We COULD MAYBE expand Citizen’s, which is a government run/backed insurance that is currently only used for those who otherwise cannot get insurance anywhere else, but nope. Our Republican leadership absolutely don’t want that. Instead they deliberately make sure Citizens is just this side of too expensive as not to “compete” with the market and if you qualify for any other insurance they must kick you off of it.

      The failure of insurance in Florida is such a huge strike against capitalism and they know that and will do anything to make sure it doesn’t happen. In fact, recently they relaxed regulations for small shop insurers here. What that means is we will have more startup insurance companies insure people for cheap, get more claims against them on a big hurricane than they have capital, pay out what they can and leave everyone else in the weeds. Total loss. It’s fucked.

      And they won’t even be the first. We have an official graveyard dedicated to all the insurers killed this way. Another for the pile.

      https://figafacts.com/category/insolvency/

      https://www.myfloridacfo.com/division/receiver/companies

      https://www.myfloridacfo.com/division/receiver/companies/closed

    • Breath_Of_The_Snake [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Ah yes, the poor people who couldn’t achieve enough enlightenment to choose their incarnation are totally to blame for being born in Florida.

      Fuck off with this goofy shit. Sins of the father is dumb as fuck and even the monotheists realized this a long time ago.

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        I mean if living there requires expensive rebuilding every year against encroaching floodwater that will only get worse getting poor people out of the way early is probably the best outcome you can get in this satanic country. It will be very bad, but that goes without saying in Amerikkka.

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          I am not saying this to victim blame. The ones who deserve the blame here are property developers and city/county governments for continuing current practices.

          At least half, if not the vast majority, of damage caused by hurricanes every year is completely avoidable. When I lived in Okinawa we got typhoons every year, sometimes really big ones, and the worst thing that would happen might be your car getting flipped over - but every building was solid concrete, the tall buildings downtown were tightly packed and protected each other, there was a lot of sea wall to break up storm surges, etc. I remember going bowling with the family pretty much every time a hurricane hit (unlike the troops who lived on base and were all ordered to stay in the barracks and forbidden from drinking lmao).

          Before I got to live in Japan I lived in a trailer park on the east coast for a number of years, where I saw the exact opposite of this in practice. Every hurricane that hit would destroy a bunch of wooden houses and mobile homes (including my own once), but the rebuild would use the exact same cheap as hell materials and techniques, almost like the whole coast’s construction industry was colluding to protect the yearly demand for repairs.

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      You can tell it’s a good system that isn’t feudalism with extra steps when the company you give money to every month can just rug pull you and decide you can’t have houses anymore

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    Oh sure it’s “Another Kkkrakkka down” this and “unlimited genocide on the first world” that. But as soon as someone celebrates Amerikkkan vampires finally suffering suddenly it’s all “no not like that.”

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    I think the rest of us are dumbfounded with the spectacle that is natural disasters in the Southeast. I support Floridian refugees taking our black jobs, living in our hotels and eating our cats. I refuse to expend the CO2 needed to rebuild their state, time for this project of annual reconstruction for a minority of folks to enjoy some beaches and palm trees to end.

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      doug-clap knight-nod

      Perfection. Obviously (due to prior struggle sessions) this is not cheering on the hurricane or laughing at the victims when I say this, but this is exactly how the US has been treating Haitians (and the entire world) distilled down into one sentence. Actually- not quite “exactly”- unlike with Haiti where the US is pretty much explicitly, directly guilty for the overwhelming majority of Haiti’s two centuries of suffering post-independence- we aren’t, none of us are guilty of inflicting this upon the US; in fact, while the masses could be ascribed varying levels of guilt and non-guilt, the settler-colonial destructive nation-project of AmeriKKKa is likely directly responsible for inflicting this upon its own people and creating the conditions where this misery would be exacerbated and prolonged.

      The gall of (certain, specific, however not at all remotely miniscule in number) Americans in spreading blood libel against Haitians- not only on unfounded claims, but for issues that could and should if true be directly attributable to two centuries of American invasions, occupations, regime changes, and plundering and agricultural as well as economic imperialism, always struck me as particularly vile, when Haiti’s never-ending food crises (manufactured mass famines, rather) are entirely AmeriKKKa’s fault, the fault of all those (bipartisan- honestly I suspect the DNC is more guilty even considering the KKKlinton’s notorious abuses of the nation) assorted Hitlerites who occupy the highest positions of power, wealth, and prestige in the regime, and when Haiti even now is being trodden down by hired Kenyan comprador boots, something their respective US embassy is on record describing their responsibility for arranging.

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    I think the chickens coming home to roost gives people a bit of schadenfreude. Which I think is fine in the abstract, but when it becomes “I want to see these people suffer” yeah I agree, bad take.

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      It’s the fact that Florida politicians are spearheading the gutting of federal disaster relief that’s insane to me. You’d think that would be one thing that they’d support. Kinda how North Carolina Republicans are actually surprisingly good with healthcare stuff sometimes because it’s an issue that directly effects their voter base and state employee healthcare costs.