• themeatbridge@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Two types of people reading this:

    “Oh no! We should do everything we can to mitigate the damage.”

    and

    “Fuck it, might as well keep doing what I’m doing.”

    And it’s the latter that got us here in the first place.

    • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world
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      4 hours ago

      “Fuck it, might as well keep doing what I’m doing.”

      And that last group is going to be angry when they can’t keep doing their stuff when insurance rates go insane so they can’t buy houses or cars, or when food prices keep going up even faster than they are now.

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      51 minutes ago

      It doesn’t make any difference what got us here in the first place. What matters now is what options are the best from now moving forward.

      These scientists seem to say that trying to reverse climate change isn’t the right path forward. I wonder why.

      edit: I wonder what makes them think that reversing climate change won’t work.

      Someone was so offended by their misreading of my comment that they went through and downvote-bombed every comment in my history.

      • blurg@lemmy.world
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        1 hour ago

        One of the greatest advantages of the totalitarian elites of the twenties and thirties was to turn any statement of fact into a question of motive. – Hannah Arendt

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        2 hours ago

        What they’re saying is that trying to reverse climate change won’t be enough. It doesn’t mean it isn’t the right path, just that it won’t go far enough.

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        3 hours ago

        Because it won’t work? That’s what I got from the article. I’m not sure what else you’re implying.

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      34 minutes ago

      Yeah and it was pretty much going once we hit the twenty teens but took awhile to notice. At this point its about slowing things down as much as possible.

  • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Startups are developing a whole suite of technologies to try to help

    Do not think that they are seriously trying to save the planet.

    (If they had wanted that, they should have done it 30-40 years ago)

    They just want to make money, like everybody else.

  • Jackthelad@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Do people seriously think we could “reverse” climate change?

    That’s not how the climate works.

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      3 hours ago

      Not sure why you’re being downvoted. Glaciers formed over millennia. If they melt, they’re gone, even if we drop CO2 to pre-industrial levels. The Antarctic ice sheet is millions of years of snow that fell at the rate of a few inches a year and just didn’t melt. If significant portions of that fall off and melt, it’ll be millions of years more for the water it adds to the oceans to cycle back to the ice sheet again. The changes we have made will not be reversed automatically or in many cases at all.

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      Remember it used to be called global warming, because that’s what’s actually happening. But morons thought a cold winter day disproved global warming, so it was renamed climate change.
      And yes we can reverse global warming, but obviously that won’t recreate polar or mountain ice, or lower sea levels quickly, but we can get the temperature down to stop it first, which will also curb the increase in natural disasters, then the restoring of sea levels and ice will take at least decades and probably centuries.

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        I’m pretty sure it wasn’t renamed because people were morons about child weather, at least not completely. It’s always been “climate change”, because that’s a better representation of what is happening.

        The climate is changing, and one is the main side effects it’s global warming… But there’s extra fun side effects, like ocean acidification, that aren’t because of the warning

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        My point is that slowing down the heating of the planet is doable (though you’d need the majority of the world contributing, which is highly unlikely to happen), but we can’t reverse the damage that has already been done, which some people seem to think is possible.

        We’re not as powerful as we think we are.

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    They say scientists are saying this but is it like all scientists, the majority of scientists, a significant or intelligent minority of scientists, or is it just like this one person and because it’s an alarm worthy headline it’s being amplified?

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      Oh any worth their salt has been saying it for years. Climate change can be seen in nearly all disciplines of science. But every time we hurdle a new tier of awful they say it again so that when the end comes for us all due to our own hubris, the last man in a lab coat will scream the collective scream of his people “i told you so” before spontaneously combusting