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With any luck, hackers will turn them into penises
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Or cyberpunk. Or watched Blade Runner.
Sky holograms are pretty common in corpo dystopia fiction. And maybe future non fiction. Jesus
The problem with cyberpunk fiction is that some people have no media literacy and a lot of money and decide their company should do things from their favorite stories.
I keep laughing when Palanthir comes up. Like, why name your surveillance company after these things that were used for bad in the stories.
When i learned that there is an actual real life food company that’s called “soylent” i just felt like going to bed and skipping the next couple days, like what the fuck
You’re telling me that in 2013 somebody made a company with the same name as a fictional company in 1966 novel Make Room Make Room! about overcrowded earth and the 1977 movie Soylent Green wherein they FEED PEOPLE TO OTHER PEOPLE AND LIE ABOUT IT?
That’s pretty awful. I feel like that’s the absolute bottom of the barrel desperation for exposure. Why didn’t they just call it LentSoya or something?
Because they’re not trying to hide what they are. They’re telling people clear as day, and people are still trying to wrap their heads around it, inventing all sorts of excuses for the behavior of obviously evil companies.
Lack of media literacy is becoming a huge problem for society. People either think fiction is reality or just literally don’t understand satire, parody, and cautionary tales.
The Torment Nexus meme is too real
My problem is that it’s too real to enjoy
I mean, we have some clear aspects of what was feared. I think the closest country currently is South Korea, given how powerful the corporations are there.
It goes to the point where the main thing young people work towards is the Samsung Aptitude Test, there are whole cities that basically just belong to Samsung. From the factory to the supermarkets where the factory workers shop to the flats the workers live in and spend their time off using Samsung devices.
So company towns that haven’t started issuing scrip yet. My country tried that for a while. It ended in literal class warfare.
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United States. Look into Appalachian coal miner union history. The company towns were part of the story but not the whole of the exploitation of the workers. The Battle of Blair Mountain is the most famous incident. Also the music involved fucking slaps.
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Yeah that makes sense. They were absolutely kept in economic bondage, with brutal treatment. And when they resisted tensions escalated. They matched to unionize and the bosses brought in mercenaries. Gunfire was exchanged, and at times machine guns were mounted to trains or nested in mountains to stop strikers. Teenagers charged them.
It’s worth learning more. If for no other reason than because Appalachia is a special part of the country that’s often misunderstood and it helps put their distrust of outsiders into context
Well, image in the picture really looks like ads from WALL-E, especially those on an Axiom spaceship’s ‘fake sky’.
Many people like to say that if they had a time machine they would go back and kill Hitler or some other valiant act of heroism that would prevent the death of millions.
Yet when faced with the real possibility of killing (or even just properly holding accountable - removal from society, redistribution of resources of) an individual now, who is already responsible for millions of deaths by virtue of withholding resources alone, never mind the active oppression and exploitation of billions that go in to maintaining the system that allows them their power, people suddenly become squeamish.
But not even at the idea of them doing it, but at the idea of anyone doing it (to the point of actively opposing it), and that’s just so fucking frustrating, that people can’t see the glaringly obvious dictators “of tomorrow”, who already literally control everything and are actively getting away with a lot shit directly out of the fascist playbook today, how anyone can still deny it to themselves just blows my mind.
We’re never going to get a better future as long as so many people refuse to accept that we’re never going to be given it by those living the high life off of our backs.
The difference is that I can look up a moment in history when Hitler was vulnerable and then kill him with zero consequences.
There would be a lot of consequences for killing anyone today, and it’d be really hard to kill anyone that matters.
The most difficult tasks are the most rewarding.
That begets the question, why do you feel okay with murder when there are no consequences?
Were you to find yourself in such a situation with say the CEO of Nestle or Nike, or Rupert Murdoch, or whomever you fancy, where you suddenly realize you have an opportunity to murder that person without consequence, would you do so?
I’d prefer they be sent to work camps to pay for their crimes - execution is a waste of resources
But if you’re talking about a situation where “press this magic button an Elon Musk dies” well~
It was a rhetorical question meant to prompt you into a moral or philosophical justification.
But for the record, I more or less agree with your position.
Okay, but like, I don’t want to outright say it because I’m pretty sure the people I hate are watching for that sort of thing 😅
Not that I disagree but it’s absolutely fucking exhausting to come into the comment sections of a post like this and find a comment basically dropping a prepared lecture on something tangentially related because you saw a highly upvoted post involving something capitalism-adjacent and decided to set up your soapbox.
Like, could you at least try to act like the comment is actually in response to the content of the post. Slip one line in there about “ads” or “night sky” or something, anything, that makes it sound like you’re genuinely responding to the post and not just deploying the speech you had in your back pocket.
Not to take away from anything you just said, but it’s a different thing to claim you would do something in an impossible and hypothetical scenario, than to name a currently powerful person and say you’d make them dead if you could.
But not even at the idea of them doing it, but at the idea of anyone doing it
It’s like having a mouse squirming in a trap and knowing it must be hit and put out of its’ misery but all your muscles amount to nothing while looking at it’s tiny frame. Can’t do it, bro, just can’t do it.
But not even at the idea of them doing it, but at the idea of anyone doing it
DItto.
I’ll start hunting ad executives for sport.
I’ve often thought that in another life I would be an EcoTerrorist. So if this happens I’ll be right there with ya 💣
Bird shot from a long barrel should reach high enough, and the descending pellets would do minimal damage to property and people.
Shouldn’t need a ton of power from the shot, just enough for the drone rotors to smack into and snap.
You wont do shit keyboard warrior lmao, go grab a coke now
…says the rando with his keyboard
I’m not the one who threatened to do anything? u like being contrarian or just lacking reading comprehension?
Anyone who’s played Cyberpunk 2077 might remember the big ads projected into the sky above the city. It adds a really cool dystopian atmosphere to the game.
In real life it would be a nightmare come true.
Yeah, marketing people are psychopaths. Normal people see Cyberpunk 2077 and think dystopia. Marketing people think “cool idea, let’s make it real!”
It’s not theoretical, look up Candy Crush New York.
They can start going all out with regular ad programming over tier 1 cities many times each day almost as soon as they find themselves able to get away with it.
It’s will be regular within a few years if we let it.
If we could get cybernetic implants I’d take it. Too bad the only thing we’ll get is higher rent, lower pay, and ads in the sky.
The only thing projected in the sky can only be the bat signal. That’s the rule
It’s never too early to be an eco-terrorist
This is the first time I’ve seen the original tweet without Johnny Silverhand
It’s way better without him. Take my hug 🤗 for enduring this cringe.
Full terrorist might be a bit much, but I wouldn’t be opposed to punching holes in packaging of the advertised products.
If the trend caught on at a large enough scale to just mildly vandalize space-billboard products, that shit would stop in a hurry.
…hell we should do that with regular billboards too - gimme my scenery back!
Full terrorist might be a bit much
I disagree. A society that sells the night sky to private interest deserves to burn.
…on second thought… yeah.
Billboards really ought to be illegal.
And now we have mega led tv billboards that flash their content blindingly in your eyes from miles away, yay!
you say terrorism bad then advise terrorism lol
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world, I propose a solution to this conundrum:
- Terrorizing bourgeoisie = good
- Terrorizing proletariat = bad
I like it. Sign me up.
exactly
Terrorism and vandalism are not the same thing.
so destruction of property for the purpose of political agitation is just as chill as spray painting the side of a rusted train? wow the world has changed
One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. Calling the act of fighting back against corporations “terrorism” doesn’t make the act itself bad or wrong, nor does it dissuade anyone from carrying it out, it’s just virtue signalling to show everyone else which side of the fence you’re positioning yourself on. The wrong side.
oh silly I’m from lemmygrad, I am definitely on the side of terrorism. I just want the terms defined properly, because hiding your terms and aims behind vague descriptions is ill-advised and will lead to disaster. Do not desensitize political action, realize what it is, and agree with it.
Companies ≠ Government
The government is tied to corporations. The Government exists to carry out the will of the monopolies, and reign in the populace. Throwing billions of dollars to corrupt politicians to carry out their aims does not a democracy make.
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I can play this game too. Oh so murdering people for the sake of a political agenda is just as chill as damaging property?
damaging property is nothing. Especially the property of the rich use to try to delude us
humans are a different matter, but if your existence relies on the exploitation of the earth, I think they’ve declared war against every other person alive. Politics is a reflection of human wills and goals, not some thing you snark at from your couch scrolling tiktok. Politics is every thought and idea of change and invention. Every murder is a political murder. If it is a man who beat his wife to death that is a reinforcement of patriarchy. If a driver falls asleep at the wheel and hits a biker, that is a result of capitalist overworking and insufficient bike infrastructure.
All of this is a direct result of capitalism, which the rich enforce the corrupt and aged economy with their wealth. These passive deaths are also murder, so should we just do nothing? Just wait for the same people who’ve enslaved the world to free us because we asked? You have morals, they would not think twice about killing everyone you know if it meant defending their wealth. Do not allow them to have all the power because of a false morality.
Did you reply to the wrong person?
no
Would that constitute terrorism? I thought that was just limited to political goals, not consumer shit.
If yes, then terrorist that shit up!
lets fuckin goooooooooooooooooooooooo
People are saying terrorism.
This sounds more like vandalism.
There’s quite a bit of difference.
I don’t understand the increasingly aggressive ads. When I see a company advertising heavily I get sketched out and assume they have subpar product.
If these are drones and someone does this irl I’m going to shoot them down
Drone-based sky projections/light shows typically use hundreds or thousands of them. Good luck.
So you’re saying we should use an EMP?
Well, if terrorism is your goal…
They’re drones, not people.
It would be vandalism and property destruction, not terrorism. Calm down, dude.
You seem to think an EMP wouldn’t have tremendous collateral damage. It’s a nuke for electronics, indiscriminate in targets.
Dude we’re going to be hard pressed to even get the range needed to take out part of the drone swarm, and you’re worried about collateral damage?
I’m sorry but you can no longer be a part of Project Mayhem.
I guess you could launch a rocket with an EMP on it, to get it closer. And hopefully not take down a plane by accident? Yeah this idea is dumb.
Someone could build an emp with a wave guide in their garage and just aim them at the drones
Just look at online forums and youtubers who are in the DIY electronics space
You could even make one from parts of a plasma globe
So what do you think is going on in the prime universe?
Harambe sires an offspring. Covid was contained, however significant changes in social structures happened so that cross species viruses have a tougher time evolving. Mitch McConnell shat himself on the senate floor, then proclaimed his love for flamin’ hot cheetoes, then passes away. Elon Musk takes a ride on Space X, it suffers a malfunction & he burns up on reentry. Russia and China start a war, but both armies are the equivalent of an Ikea designed tank. All offensive and defensive maneuvers are so bad there are literally thousands of scholars writing doctorate thesis on them. Beer cures cancer. Universal pay is implemented worldwide, Amazon goes bankrupt. Tipping culture in the US ends. Nestlé board of trustees and executive committee are rounded up and hunted for sport by Tankies…capitalists tune in to the reality based tv show and place enough bets to wipe out world debt. Argentina finally has a sound financial footing, a robust economy, and bright future producing most of the worlds green energy needs. World temperatures stabilize and start trending towards normal as most automobiles, private jets, tankers and ocean liners are either converted to green power or scrapped. People have a healthy relationship with social media.
…fuck
Back propagating simulations of other possible less utopian courses reality could have taken within which a bunch of people are complaining about how much things suck and wondering what is happening in the prime reality.
Trump won 2nd term and Russia took Ukraine in 3 weeks
What are you on?
is prime universe suppose to be the good universe or something?
The Prime Universe is a term in science fiction to determine the Main Universe. The universe that the story centers around is the “Prime Universe”, deviations from this are “Alternate Universes”
I’m claiming that because our world is so absurd in ways that would seem impossible if it wasn’t literally happening in front of us, we are obviously not the Prime Universe, as it makes no realistic since that Jan 6th could have happened without a swift military response, that Donald Trump could be President, that souls aren’t real, that we have so much proof for aliens yet no aliens, or that men like Elon Musk could actually be considered our “Best and brightest”… Making it transparent that we in fact, a bizarre “What-If” scenario
oh I thought prime universe means alternate universe as the math apostrophe symbol is pronounced prime and often denotes (mathematical) derivative
In this instance, think of it as “Short for Primary”
This is such an old repost I’m surprised it hasn’t happened yet
If they’re some sort of holograms they wouldn’t last a week. And I mean hackers making them into Friendly Windmills and the sort.
This is such a stupid idea on so many levels but mostly because it’s functionally impossible. The amount of satellites that would need to be launched in order to be able to form a visible image from the surface of the Earth would be prohibitively expensive and complicated to organise. They would all crash into each other within about 15 minutes - because orbits are inherently chaotic, and because of the ultra low altitude they’d have to maintain to make it remotely visible, they would burn up in the atmosphere almost instantly.
Basically no one with even a high school level education is actually proposing this.
This is basically just rage bate.
Wouldn’t they be more likely to use drones than satellites?
Yeah, and we already have drone lightshows
It would especially be effective in cities, with a high density of people. And the base cost would not be that large compared to normal advertising spots, which already go for a lot of money.
Basically, if it was legal, it would have already been done.
Who said anything about satellites? That looks more like bat-signal-style projections against the clouds
Could you project something on the moon?
Or write something on it with a laser!
This is basically just rage bate.
True, also since it’s expensive the company could have use that money to give extra wages in their employees but no they’re too greedy.
lauren is a great twitter follow
Only bootlickers still use xitter
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