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This is not opinion or leftist. It’s news about fighting in the party, which is factual, recent, and on-topic.
Removal of this post is admitting that this sub is only about being a safe space for conservatives to circle-jerk while ignoring reality.
I encourage a discussion about the recent conflicts inside the party, how that might impact the party moving forward, and what can be done to prevent this divide.
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This article seems to draw the wrong point from the interview. The historian being interviewed says the quickness to resort to violence by Republican politicians is nearly identical to that of Southern politicians right before the US Civil War. She notes that these Southern politicians were emboldened by the fact that they could do anything and not be politically reprimanded for it. Their constituents actually liked how violent they were, so it just kept getting worse. She notes that modern day Republicans enjoy the same luxury. The historian stops short of saying America is headed towards another civil war because their politicians would rather use threat and violence over debate and compromise, and the American voters like it.
We may be heading towards another civil war. While people like to think slavery was the only cause of the war, it was more complicated than that. We have many different cultures and sometimes those cultures collide. I am a small government Republican, which means I support abortion as the government should stay out of an adult’s medical care. I am not religious, and I’m not too fond of the mixing of abortion and religion. While I respect religions and do attend mass on occasion, I do not want your sky God dictating what I can do with my body.
The problem is both parties are spewing things that don’t really solve anything.
I mean this with no insult. You’re in the wrong party if you want any of those things. And I’m curious, what DO you like about the Republican Party today, and don’t say taxes.
No I’m in the right party. I’m not a rabid racist like the democrats. I’m against large government. I’m against wages theft through taxation.
You know that slavery, kkk we’re all democrat things and still are?
There is nothing positive in me about the democrats.
You must be really old if you can recall a time when democrats discriminated against people based on race. ;-) Parties change. The modern GOP is all about big government, control of people, censorship, and racism.
But, your answer said all I need to know about your actual position.
Thanks
They still do. They just dress it up and call it diversity now-a-days. Just look at college admissions for a good example.
What about college admissions?
There was a entire court case and everything. Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_Fair_Admissions_v._Harvard#:~:text=Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard%2C 600 U.S.,Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
TLDR: College Admissions / Affirmative Action were racist, and probably still are.
The democrats still discriminate against people based on race. It’s a core part is their platform.
And no, you have the gop wrong. Covid proved that the gop wasn’t about control. They let people make informed decisions about their health. The democrats wanted to force vaccinations and mask on everyone.
Seems like you don’t know much about the GOP
Which democratic policies are you thinking of that discriminate based on race?
Everything to Democrats is about race, sexual orientation, and segregation. etc.
You know that slavery, kkk we’re all democrat things and still are
According to whom? Both of these things have always been far right ideologies. Are you forgetting the two main parties switched in name a century ago?
The parties never switched. That’s a myth.
The Democrats started both the kkk and slavery.
The Republican Party was built on anti slavery.
The parties never switched. That’s a myth.
It objectively is not a myth.
https://www.studentsofhistory.com/ideologies-flip-Democratic-Republican-parties
Did you even read my citations before you started trolling? You do not act in good faith.
So what policies changed? Name 3 politicians that swapped sides.
You want to know why you can’t? Because it was a pr campaign. Thats it.
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The KKK’s still around, and when they march, they don’t march with Democrats.
Still democrats.
Hell even the Neo Nazi supporter Biden for o president.
Which guy said a neo-Nazi rally had “good people on both sides?”
Who was endorsed by the leader of the Neo-Nazi party.
Who didn’t want their children in a racial jungle?
Who told black people they weren’t black if they didn’t vote him.
How racist are you not to see the party is racist?
Fistfights and warfare aren’t on the same path like at all. War is not an extension of what men are doing when they physically fight each other.
If anything, war is the result of men developing deep differences without having a chance to meet each other face to face and just get it over with.
For any man who’s ever been in a civilized fight (ie one which both men consent to and which ends when one man disables the other), it’s obvious that the feeling afterward is the opposite of war.
You guys realize that a lot of conservatives don’t like politicians, right? Also, conservatives are not a monolith.
Think of how a lot of leftists don’t like the DNC.
The DNC is not a leftist organization. The RNC is thoroughly conservative.
And conservatism is so rooted in hierarchy that performative agreement and uniform action are central to right-wing ideology. The origin of “right-wing” was French republicans (little R) figuring someone’s gotta be the king. They just felt hereditary life-appointment was a subpar way to pick one guy who gets to decide what a whole country wants.
There’s a reason zero Republicans voted for Newt Gingrich’s healthcare plan, when a Democrat proposed it. It’s not because they hate Newt Gingrich.
There’s a reason Mitt Romney was excoriated for acknowledging publicly-visible high crimes. Even when those crimes threatened the lives of literally every federal elected official besides the guy who committed them. It’s not because Mitt changed drastically in the decade since he was the face of the party.
Totally agree. I think it’s healthy to say “I don’t like this person on my team” or “I refuse to vote for someone because they are a criminal, a convicted rapist, etc.
Leftists do it all the time. I think it should be more acceptable for righties to criticize their own. After all, I think we can both agree that Greene and Boebert aren’t doing anything but making the GOP look foolish as a whole.
The only people I know who talk about those two are people on the left.
I agree they make normal conservatives look wacky.
Haley at least is trying to get things done that benefit working people. I can’t say Boebert or Greene have done anything to help anyone.
Well, I’ll be sure to post more about their antics.
Does this mean yall will finally stop complaining about Hunter Biden’s cock? Half joking here.
Again, not a monolith. Some really care. Some don’t.
Personally, I find the hunter thing worth exploring, if hes passing money to Biden. Same as if any other person was giving 40,000 grand to Biden.
Do you find the Trumps worth exploring and Jared’s $2BILLION investment from the Saudi’s or Ivanka’s $600MILLION paycheck from her time in the White House? Or is it different when Republicans do it?
Didn’t they already investigate? Unless new evidence comes to light, I can’t imagine what’d they find the second time around that they didn’t the first time.
But his cock is clearly the important part.
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Because I mentioned them in a single thread as a joke?
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Evidently you didn’t read the beginning of this conversation, where it started with me saying it was a joke.
I think it’s good that there’s still some aspect of society where men can literally hit each other, and benefit from the peace of mind and bonding that actual fisticuffs inevitably leads to.
Republicans: We’re the Party of Family Values. Also Republicans: Senators should be able to fight people in the Senate.
Don’t forget the time they elected a guy who has constantly cheated on his partners, and had several kids from several different mothers.
And don’t forget the countless times they’ve voted to end social safety nets that help keep kids/families out of poverty.
They’re the party of “grab em by the pussy”, not family values.
And while that may sound like a joke, it’s not. I’m dead serious that I think it’s a tragedy that men are now completely cut off from that beautiful, peaceful feeling one gets from reducing his beef with another man down to physical pain, and then ensuring both men hurt a little, and the tension just being gone afterward.
I don’t think it’s right to view “descending to blows” to be the worst thing that’s happened in congress lately.