Winn always made my skin crawl!

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    If they’d only stopped making him so damned childish.

    Ever seen Avenue5? Spike was what Neelix shoulda been and it’s hilarious.

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      Actually, I wish they’d made his girlfriend a little less, ah, childish.

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        Hot take: i never understood the whole controversy around him dating an alien with a very short lifespan.

        She isnt a child in their society, just a (young) woman. Had she remained with the okampa she would likely have had romantic partners around that same time in her life, possibly children as well. For that matter, as far as I know neelix isn’t interested in her for her age in any way either, so I have a hard time seeing how it is considered creepy or inappropriate. Also, the actress was a normal adult woman, so that wasn’t weird either (I cringe more at the scenes of O’Brien and teen aged Keiko in that one TNG episode, at least they didnt kiss I guess).

        I found him more annoying for his petty jealousy and overused mister vulcan interactions (although I generally enjoyed their dynamic).

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          agreed. OH NOE SHE’S TWOOOO she’s not a fuckign human so that makes her a grown woman who’s expected to have kids at this point. Gentle and thinking the best of people =/= naive and childish.

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          She was the human equivalent of 18 years old, and Neelix was middle-aged. Sure she was technically an adult but just barely. She’d lived a very sheltered life, whereas he’d had so much life experience. Plus he was a weird mix of romantic and paternalistic toward her, with inappropriate jealousy followed by love bombing. I’m glad they got rid of that storyline because it really didn’t work IMO.

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            She was the equivalent of 18 for about a month or so? in her life cycle. She was probably older (and more mature) than neelix by the point she broke up with him.

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      I have never seen Avenue 5, but as an old Buffy the Vampire Slayer fan I suddenly saw a foul-mouthed English bad boy Neelix in my head and it was hilarious 😂

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      Spike is awesome. I need them to make a lot more Avenue 5. I’m holding out hope that it’ll get the Red Dwarf treatment.