• healthkick@hexbear.net
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    Yes WW1 happened because of a single incident setting off a firestorm and not due to ideologies of imperialism, militarism, monarchism, jingoistic nationalism, and the desire of the Anglo-French alliance to prevent any competitors to their global domination being confronted by Germany which felt entitled as a white nation to its share of genocidal extraction.

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      Correct, WW1 would have happened regardless, Franz Ferdinand getting shot or not, the economies of western Europe were just too primed for war at that point

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        One day the great European War will come out of some damned foolish thing in the Balkans - Otto von Bismarck (1888)

        Why is the geopolitical situation so intertwined and precarious in the Balkans, von Bismarck? big-honk

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    Me when all I know about WW1 is that some rich guy got killed and then something something history happened: DAE political assassinations bad?

    Don’t threaten me with a good time anyway. The country would’ve detonated and there are probably over 5 billion people that would be cheering right after.

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    I’m simply not so sure we haven’t arrived at the same place anyway. Living in deeply Maga area, we’ve had fireworks shot off all night last night, as well as people posting up on corners with flags and guns. One person in my area said they were heiled and yelled “white power” at.

    It concerns me that people are trying to downplay this situation just because the man didn’t die. I think it’s the opposite. People are feeling riled up and emboldened in a way I don’t think they would if the shooter had succeeded.

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      brump C’mon Jack we need to finish the job! Just so it’s clear to fedposting, that this is an issue I feel very reach around the aisle about, here’s a picture I secretly keep in my closet of my pragmatic messiah obama-drone. Disenfranchised tiedrich you have the chance to do the funniest thing ever and are our only hope

      Hex Bearers, channers, chapos.chatters, DO NOT do an adventure-time. Do be ready for doodoo to hit the fan doomjak

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      Also living in Chudland encountering the same issue. There’s a lot of the obvious militia sorts stirring about, I kept seeing cars of them otw home, decal of this and that group. Reddit for my state vaguely had a post noting the like 3 dems and their supporters are starting to get phoned in threats from the local militias, it was quickly removed cuz reddit, but it seems my area isn’t the only one experiencing shit.

  • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Oh well, I’m glad the country will not detonate now. I can breathe easy knowing that all we will see from now is the legendary American ability to treat everything with a sense of zen like calm, without making any rash decisions.

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    It would actually be bad, and it is bad that it happened right now anyway. Who the fuck you think is gonna get hit with retaliatory measures from this?

    Granted this person is probably a lib and doesn’t mean it this way.

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    lol If you aren’t cheering for the US to fail at this point, you are a fascist there’s nothing worth saving at this point

    I’m just disappointed we don’t have any privatized suicide booths because dying slowly in a decaying empire is not ideal

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    Well he’s partly right IMO that it would have detonated all that stored resentment that reactionaries have towards the “liberal leftists” (they rarely make distinctions) and (((the elites)))
    But uhhhhh having Trump alive and able to instead further foment and concentrate it towards his political enemies is much much much worse.

    It’s like saying that a powder keg exploding is dangerous therefore we should be glad all that powder is instead in the guns of our enemies…

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    Wow. We are very lucky we escaped the specter of Trump dying so we could get the possibility of Trump as president where this time he can act like a dictator and legally imprison, torture, or murder, etc en mass and he can do that to anybody. As you can see - we are very luc—

    Hold on. I’m being told in my earpiece that we need to go to commercials because I’m acting like a fucking idiot. Well, we need to go to commercials because I’m acting like a fucking idiot…

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      because there’s no left wing in the US that currently has the infrastructure to protect marginalized people so the most likely outcome will be liberals sitting on their hands while people of color and queer people are murdered. it has the same flaw as accelerationism, we have no way to guarantee something worse won’t come out of this.

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          In no way am I defending the existence of this fascist settler colonial project that wages endless suffering around the world but the most likely outcome of an American collapse without an actual left that exists beyond posting is probably more fascist. Is it better for the world if those people have nukes? Idk comrade.